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Ban C4 from Infect

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by AJK910, Nov 30, 2013.

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  1. Pegleg98

    Pegleg98 Well-Known Member

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    It shouldn't be "banned from infect", but it's ability to do damage to players through walls should be completely removed, and I think it is already being removed in the next update. Seriously, why would a weapon that allows you to kill players through walls be fair?
     
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  2. blankbots

    blankbots Well-Known Member

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    Exactly my point.
    Having Ray Guns and grenades in infect is fair.
    Tell me, how are you going to defend yourself from something that's on the other side of a wall?
     
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  3. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    Really, why does orange even create OP things if he just knows that he'll nerf it later and piss off a ton of people.
     
  4. meltingangel

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    well, it comes down to should a zombie really have C4? To me the best thing to do would be to just make it so c4 doesn't work in infect, but also nerf the ray and maybe law so it's not freakishly Op as it is now.
    Like they are in the next update i believe
     
  5. CraftyLumberjack

    CraftyLumberjack Active Member

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    C4 in infect, in my opinion was put there just like grenades, which was to keep the game entertaining. These two equipments are given to the zombies to keep the humans or survivors on there feet rather then, as stated above, "...not camp..." Say the zombies were not given these advantages, then the game would be a pick and choose of a narrow hallways or high advantage points to win the game. Secondly, i would think that if you put guns, perks, etc... up on the donator shop then you would want that selection of participants which gave that little bit to help these servers continue, to enjoy or use the item they bought as much as possible...
     
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  6. SweetLava

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    But not all humans have ray gun and even if they do they still can not defend themselves when you are killed through a wall.. I've been killed by a C4 about 13 times today.... It kind of ruins the game for the humans everything just seems pointless.
    They should just use grenades like the rest of us, then it will be fair. Humans=Guns Zombies=Grenades. At least they can kinda avoid the bullets and we can with the grenades but we can not defend or avoid the C4's most of the time. now when it is infect i straight away do /spawn. Infect is now pointless and boring in my view.
     
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  7. pilows2

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    Personally I like c4. If I want to win as a human, it forces me to choose a better camping spot. I think it just adds an extra challenge. Besides it usually takes 2 C4's to kill, but it ALSO takes 2 - 3 law/ray blasts to kill. I think it still balances out, and it it really was too OP, then almost all the games should be won by zombies within 2 mins. I see each team wining about 1/2 the time.
     
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    ObamaTheReptile Well-Known Member

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    That's because not everyone has c4. I assume you do?
     
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    c4 is ok for me, but I don't like when zombies get emp's
     
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  10. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Rayguns can't go through walls.
     
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  11. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    Dat gravedig though :V
     
  12. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Guys, this is what tomahawk's are for. If c4 gets nerfed, which I believe it will next update, then zombies can donate for tomahawks to spam at the humans. Although, this suggestion does have cons as well as pros. Like it would start the production of the "tomahawk noob". Please, don't create a repeat of the "Iso noob". We don't need another excuse to nerf ANOTHER weapon.
     
  13. 18kss

    18kss All is within

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    I find it nice to add some challenge to infect. Anyway, people spend money on c4, so they should always get it.
     
  14. flyingllama4

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    To be honest, I would get mad at zombies having c4, but think about all those donor guns, especially ray gun which makes it hard for the zombies to infect people. I think c4 balances out the power between the zombies and the players. I guess you could make it less overpowered, but I don't think it would do much anyways.
     
  15. Pegleg98

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    Let me explain this to you guys. Because you do not seem to get this.
    C4 goes through walls. Doesn't that seen the slightest bit OP to you? You cannot defend from something on the other side of a wall. Or from the floor below you. You don't have a chance. You just die. Period.
    Before C4, it was perfectly possible to win each map, and lose each map. Human, or zombie. Including C4 just makes in easier for the zombies to win.
    There are so many zombie lovers on this server. "Oh, they're so defenseless!" "They don't get guns!" "Oh, the POOR things!"
    Well you know what? Humans should have a chance too.

    And again, I do not want C4 to be removed from infect. All they have to do is stop damage from going through walls, which I believe they are already doing for the next update.
     
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    If I recall correctly, and I would like @Cbsusd to correct me if I'm wrong, but on Cbsusd's thread about the new update Orange said that C4 will still go through walls on the update. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty certain.
     
  17. Javed

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    On the testing server it didn't
    I made a thread about it a while ago
    Orange said it did
    The world is a lie
    He said it would. Maybe it had not yet been implemented when I used it, or maybe the aoe was decreased, or maybe I just missed. But in any case it didn't seem to kill through walls any more.
     
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    Thank you for clearing that up. I'm going to take Orange's word, and say it's still going to go through walls. I personally like this aspect of C4, but I can see why others disagree. We'll see how it goes, I guess.
     
  19. Javed

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    Yes. It adds a new aspect to infect. Not all camping spots are safe now. You still have to kill the zombies crowding at your feet, lest they will just C4 you. But maybe I'm just being biased because I have it :V
    But even when I'm infected by it, it's not a big deal. I usually have enough kills to still have a positive KDR after I die.
     
  20. Pegleg98

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    Goes against the laws of physics, and it's almost like cheating.
    Lets keep it!
    #logic
     
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