The Problem with the McBrawl population.

It's either have the forums full of people spamming for posts, somepotentially being good members, or having the community we have now, filled with wonderful people, and those who do not want to partake in this will lose out in this experience from their greed for staff.
Your choice.

-If people can't take serious constructive criticism, they're not ready for staff. People are etitled to their ratings.
-You see peple's intros? We are pretty nice to them.
-90% of us do not do that. Out posts must be on-topic, after all.
-After 10 posts stating the same stuff, the same criticism can get a little redundant.
We try our hardest to be as warm as possible and tell new members to NOT post apps. If they do anyway, that is their own fault.

 

I never thought about this.
I try to be informative when telling the newcomers what they did wrong in their applications, but there were so many that I stopped and just started -1ing them.
Thanks for this message, im going to try to give better advice to newcomers

 

Just code it so that members with less than 250 posts are restricted from submitting moderator applications. Then this problem won't start in the first place.

 

Another way would be to avoid new member moderator applications altogether and make it so that you need 200 posts to make one. But I agree with everything you're saying, Mokolee.

 

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I make it my mission to rate every SNN post "Pointless".

We've went over this, new members will spam the forums if we implement a static number.

 

It's really stupid of new member too just quit the forums when they're denied, cause just going away is stupid

 

Not stupid, just #butthurt

 

This is a great way to keep people from posting the dreaded "SNN" post. In my opinion, just stating "SNN -1" is not in any way, shape, or form helping the Member out. All I see is laziness, almost like the Member cannot right a detailed, helpful post that contains constructive criticism. Plus, most New Members don't even know what this means. Lets all try and refrain from using it, and maybe it will die off.

It may not be stupid to them, because many people can be quite harsh on their Application gradings. I get where Mokolee is coming from. If we dial back are harsh gradings, maybe the new members will want to stay and build a better relationship with the community. I think it's worth a shot.

 

I see what you are saying, and I do agree. The only time I ever post on a short mod app is maybe every 2 weeks. I get burnt out about writing the same thing. Now this is just an idea that I want to throw out there, but we accept mods when we need mods right? Well, what if we disable the staff application forum (the pending forum, not the accepted/denied) for when we do not need mods, and open it back up when a mod wave is approaching. Now that my be a complete overflow of short mod apps, but we do not know what could happen. I just wanted to throw this idea out there, and it isn;t the greatest one ever. We could have a demo of it, and if it works/fails, we can go back to the current way or the new way. If new members wanted to be a mod, and there is not any mod wave, then they would haste to be active to show off for mod (might spam because they think they need a certain amount of posts). Please comment on what you think, I am pretty neutral for it. I would love to try it, and if they do not attempt it, that's fine
Main point, we can not control what other people think, or what they do. If they post an application, they have to deal with the criticism. That would define there qualities. Next time I rate of short app, I will reconsider what I normally do, and give helpful tips to the applier.

 

This is why im never on the mod application section of the forums. Instead of a cold and quick SNN tell the new members what they did wrong and can improve on. For the new forumers that come to make a mod app everyone here is a d*ck. So they leave the forums and consiquencially leave the servers

 

Well, people cyber-bullied me....happy now? And few of my mates already left the community for temporary time, might do same, however, I will be honest to them and I will say what I think, however, I have already had enough of c-bow spamming kids in TRA. Imma go and play more warz, however, I will come on war #1 sometimes, cuz Gyn and few others play on it. I feel bored now, even Dwarf left, even M4P left, who was an excellent player. Now, it ain't fun for me, because donors are just ruining the server with C4 and what not. I agree that I sound harsh, but I'm honestly having the same feeling as Mokolee. Stuff's gone wrong.

 

To make an outro if you're leaving.

Nope. Then the community can't give them constructive criticism in time, and we hire mods every month anyways.

 

The thing to do is to welcome the new members on the forums, by saying this and that, showing them around the forums. This will definitely effect their view/decision on the forums

 

If kids are hurt by us saying these things than I have no clue how we are suppose to rate their application. SNN is simply saying the application is short, the user is new, and -1 at the end. These "insults" helped me when I made my 2nd application. If it weren't for all the people who disliked my old application ( a long time ago ) I would have never learned from my mistakes and become who I am today. -1 helps keep track of who says yes and who says no. If a player is offended by -1 than they obviously would not be able to handle our entire forums in general.

We are very respectful here on the forums but swearing should be eliminated. I wish moderators "us" would delete/warn more user's posts that say the f-word or other rude insulting words.

Mainly, players leave because their staff application is denied, not because of what we say, or what we do. They are just mad they got denied and go off and find another server they can get staff on
Simple as that.

 

I do know what you are getting at though and I am glad you are addressing it.

Nothing against the staff but I think we have issues with some players. Sometimes we are a little harsh on them. Some users allow it to happen and that is fine, usually moderators will tease them from time-to-time but they allow it and that is okay, but moderators need to understand some users don't allow this and it is bothering them.

 

there are definitely more than 100 active forum members, the reason why most of them are inactive is because they are busy playing on the servers or they actually have a life

 

Honestly I don't have any mercy when I go to a mod application, my goal is to be ruthless, efficient, honest, and get the person to shut up and stop crying that their app is getting denied because they're one of those little spoiled brats, who when they asked for a cookie, their mom always said yes. *Breath* Damn that was a long sentence.
Anyways, no, if some sky fan (generic moron, idiot, spammer, but worse), is gonna make a mod app, we have the right to shoot it down with an oversized gun, why the hell should we be gentle and shoot it down with a squirt gun?

Here's my theory on why there's so little active members and so few new ones rising to fame.
They can't get ANYWHERE on the servers, what the hell is the fun in being spawn camped by 31+'s or having an infinite MVP team pound at you non stop, it's ridiculous.

 

The reason people are leaving or being inactive are a lot of the time school. When you are taking a test constantly and taking the finals, SAT, etc, you have to dedicate yourself to studying which means bingo, no more mc brawl. Also when you get bad grades a lot of parents don't get why you aren't a "perfect A+ student" and blame it on the computer. many kids stay up every night to do homework from like 6 to 8 of their teachers. by the time they are done they are too tired to play mc-war. When you get into junior high and high school every one of your teachers gives you max amounts of homework and that all adds up into 1) A waste of time. 2) Pressure 3) No sleep and 4) NO MC BRAWL OR SPARE TIME! So I think the main issue here along with staff apps is homework. End of story.