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Let's Talk Snipers

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by HuiDog, Aug 4, 2013.

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  1. HuiDog

    HuiDog Active Member

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    Ok, so I have a question. When have bolt-action snipers EVER been a two shot kill in the chest?


    Before you throw a crate of hate at me, hear me out.


    'dem Skillz
    Now, in CoD, sniping is as unrealistic as it gets. Quickscoping? Is that even a real thing? But, you've heard about the big names: OpTic and FaZe being the biggest. What is something that all their snipers display? EPIC AIM! To be a good sniper, your aim has to be of the best. If a sniper gets called out for a kill, and he misses his first shot, what happens? He gets discovered and killed. So, taking CoD AND real life into account, why are we raging at people who have good aim? Now, there will be people who WILL noscope you. But why is that a problem? Why, then, do you love trickshotting videos?


    The Gunz
    As I mentioned before, ALL bolt-actions have been OSK-ers in the chest and up. So, what's the big deal with making them two-shotters? Now, Prestige guns are supposed to be more powerful, right? I do agree, but making the non-prestige weapons bad is not a way of making them "better". If you want, you can jump to the list I made below with suggestions.

    The Compromise
    Here is what I and many others would like to see change in the snipers...

    L120 Isolator
    This is already an OSK weapon, but does that mean HuiDog thinks it can't be made better? No! For all you prestiges out there, I propose an overall change and then one of three options:

    Overall: As BrawlerAce_ said, increase the damage to OSK anyone with normal armor and two-shot anyone with superarmor (possibly OSK with a headshot, even with super).

    Then, pick one of the three:

    1. As suggested by most replies, cut the reload time of this sniper.

    2. As suggested in the original, increase the mag size to 8-10.

    3. Or, as a combo, add one more bullet to this weapon's mag and also decrease the reload time.

    Drawbacks: This can mean a HUGE buff for this weapon! But, then again, buffing all of the snipers is huge!

    Disassembler
    Now, this thing has a whopping 30 bullets. I think that current users think that is enough. But, I think that damage should also be raised on this weapon to adapt to the suggested new snipers. I think it should deal 9 hearts of damage, OSK-ing anyone with one heart lost, and OSK-ing if you have Stopping Power equipped. It also should two-shot anyone with normal armor (OSK with headshot), and 3-shot super armor (2-shot with a headshot).

    Drawbacks: If the user has Stopping Power, he could get up to 30 kills with just one mag! If this is going to be OP, then have it deal 8.5 hearts of damage.

    L118A
    Now, there are two ways to approach this.

    APPROACH ONE: I actually do get a lot of hitmarkers with this weapon,so I myself don't want this sniper to be an OSK weapon (except for with headshots and Stopping Power). So, I say that you give it one more bullet in its mag, and have it do 9 hearts of damage (When the newbies ask, why isn't this gun an OSK, you can tell them to buy Stopping Power!). The Isolator would be a buffed L118A.

    APPROACH TWO: To fit our OSK theme, I say you can decrease the mag size to 3 and make it deal a MAXIMUM of 10 hearts of damage.


    Dragunov
    With the current non-prestige sniper stats, this thing is the champ of the non-prestige snipers! So, What do I propose? Well, I suggest that to balance this weapon out with these buffs, increase the mag size to 10. The only perk I have is Stopping Power, and with a headshot, it's an OSK. So, I assume that without the perk, it's not a one-shot, even in the head. I also ask that you change the name of this weapon to the M14 EBR, since it is actually more like it than the Dragunov.

    Drawbacks: Headshotters with Stopping Power might be dangerous!

    Barrett .50 Cal
    This by far most talked about sniper. So, you probably already know my suggestion. I propose that it deals a MAXIMUM damage of 10 hearts (OSK in chest) and keep all its other stats.

    Drawbacks: It will be a feared sniper... yet again. But, people who have the MSR will start using it, since the MSR will, with my adjustments, be the Barrett with 2 more bullets.

    Modular Sniper Rifle
    Did you know that the MSR sniper won this year's competition for the US Army's Precision Sniper Rifle? Well, now you know. Anyway, since this is the last sniper earned before prestiging, I'd like to add one more bullet to it's mag, make it OSK, and decrease its fire rate. Its current ROF doesn't match up with the game, and if you still want this to be a two-shotter, please swap it out for another gun (possibly the SVU-AS).

    If you choose to swap it out for a semi-auto sniper, I'd suggest that sniper have 14-16 bullets, but, because of the mag size, make it a two-shot EVERYWHERE on the body, even the head, even with Stopping Power! I think that this sniper (name it whatever you want) would be pretty interesting...





    MAX KILL STATS (Chest Shots, One Mag): This is where I show you that the snipers are still balanced.

    Isolator: Depending on what choice is selected, this sniper can get anywhere 4 to 10 kills with one mag. With the reload cut option, 8-10 kills can be achieved with 2 mags, if your aim is on and your targets don't have armor

    Dissassembler: 15 kills, if your aim is on and your targets don't have armor

    L118A: 3 kills (either approach), if your aim is on and your targets don't have armor

    Dragunov: 5 kills with a 10-bullet mag, 4 kills with an 8-bullet mag, if your aim is on and your targets don't have armor

    Barrett: 5 kills, if your aim is on and your targets don't have armor

    MSR: 7 kills, if your aim is on and your targets don't have armor

    Suggested sniper to replace the MSR: 7-8 kills, depending on the ammo you give it, if your aim is on and your targets don't have armor
     
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  2. 24014

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    How...how long did that take you to type
     
  3. HuiDog

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    When I type with passion, time means nothing. I truly believe that the snipers should be well, snipers, not pieces of junk that can be beaten by automatics even at long range! I really hope the admins and owners take this into consideration.
     
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    Oh. Ok then *slowly shuffles away*
     
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    Do you agree with me on the subject? Or are you one of many prestiges that are worried about being OSKed?
     
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    Eh kind of. I don't see why we should change all the guns just cause you want them to be changed
     
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    I'm saying this on bethird of those who have wanted this change, and bethird of making it be like CoD.
     
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    I agree to your idea, but you didn't talk about the accurancy, which is very important and it helps you to balance the snipers better!
     
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    And also, if u think about it, in real life, if u get shot with any gun, unless u have medical help, u will die
     
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    What exactly do you mean by that? Are you referring to the bullet spread? Because really, with the adjustments above, increasing or decreasing the accuracy would only bring more unbalance. I tried to balance the snipers already by damage and ammo. The admins and owners could decide on the accuracy, but like I said, that'd bring more unbalance; I think they should be the same (well, maybe excluding the prestige ones). If you want to balance base on accuracy, then I will have to make adjustments to my adjustments. :smile:
     
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    guys pese give this guy a place in your development team he has a purely brilliant idea
     
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    Darkchaosknight Well-Known Member

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    Just WOW. This was actually very convincing. I like the end where you show everything was balanced. This is actually a great post and some ideas could be taken! Nice job.
     
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  13. AlexMc864

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    Dragunov should be named the Steyr AUG, high firerate, mid-low damage. BTW since WHEN does a 50 caliber ALL OF A SUDDEN turn into 2 shots, and a prestige sniper turn into a 2-3 shot kill? Geez, this is convincing. I want this added!
     
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    Dissasembler is more like 15-25 kills, it depends on what perks you have as well
    Scavenger-25+ kills
    Juggernaut-10+kills
    Stopping Power-1-5 kills
     
  15. HuiDog

    HuiDog Active Member

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    So, it seems that my idea is being praised. Is it time that a high ranking official be added?
     
  16. AlexMc864

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    High ranking official? Sounds good.
     
  17. freakiziod123

    freakiziod123 Well-Known Member

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    No snipers are the way they should be...
     
  18. AlexMc864

    AlexMc864 Well-Known Member

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    -_- answer me this, WHAT 50 CAL IS OVER OSK????? GEEZ! I THOUGHT THAT BARRET WAS PERFECT! They just HAD to nerf it!
     
  19. HuiDog

    HuiDog Active Member

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    So... could you contact putty or orange?
     
  20. AlexMc864

    AlexMc864 Well-Known Member

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    I wish... lemme blast em with a msg.
    Chickenputty, chaploo, and orange are notified.
     
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