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Top Player ranking

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by SuperBen4, Feb 17, 2014.

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What should top ranking criteria be?

  1. Number of Kills

    11 vote(s)
    22.9%

  2. KDR

    19 vote(s)
    39.6%

  3. Number of Nukes

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    8.3%

  4. Some complicated formula of the above to eliminate low level players with high KDR

    12 vote(s)
    25.0%

  5. None of the above

    2 vote(s)
    4.2%
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  1. starbo1034

    starbo1034 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't pistolparrot use god-mode most of the time?
    NOw lets not forget that joey always has MVP which gives you 3 credits per kill and 45 xp per kill
     
    #61 starbo1034, Feb 20, 2014
  2. joeymast99

    joeymast99 j chillin

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    I hoard credits. I only buy superarmor on ctf or trolling maps.
    I used to buy armor EVERY game but not much anymore.
     
    #62 joeymast99, Feb 20, 2014
  3. chikenanater011

    chikenanater011 Well-Known Member

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    this isn't good for showing player skills, you could constantly donate for mvp + double xp and be level 60+ in no time and not have that much skill, and you could camp and get a great kdr, or you could be a rusher with an average kdr.
     
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    #63 chikenanater011, Feb 20, 2014
  4. SuperBen4

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    Hey Mafia, I have been writing down my Nukes since day one, and I am surprised at how few I got (just over 200).

    Lets look at your stats here.

    If you take your score, you have 185,500 kills right? Now 2,400 nukes means you do 21 kills per nuke, plus say you get 8 additional kills for the act of the nuke, so about 29 kills in total per nuke. If you suicide straight away, you can maybe get double/triple nukes or you can keep playing and keep staying on one nuke for the game. It depends how you play, but lets say for instance the average TDM/CTF (pretty much the only games most people nuke on most of the time) you get 2 nukes per game with 58 kills and 1 death

    Your stats might be broken down like this:
    TDM - 30,000 kills
    CTF - 30,000 kills
    Gungame - 15,500 kills
    FFA - 20,000 kills
    OIC - 10,000 kills
    Infect - 80,000 kills (because infect is so easy to get lots of kills and also happens more regularly than other maps
    Total kills - 185,500 (this is your total kill stat)

    So in the above you have 60,000 possible kills with which you could nuke (TDM + CTF).

    If you double nuke perfectly on every single one of your TDM/CTF games (assuming the 29 kills per nuke rule) you would only have 2,068 nukes. If I add 100 extra nukes for the odd gungame nuke you would be up to 2,168. Remember this is assuming perfect double nuke every single TDM/CTF game you have ever played in your life. Your number of deaths means you don't perfect nuke every game, so it is probably much less than this.

    You can perhaps get a little higher if you nuke glitch a lot, but I think you will be surprised at how slow you increase your nuke count. As I said I only have around 210, and I nuke around 3 times each day I play currently, and I have been playing for over a year (didn't nuke too much at the start tho).

    This is why I think that most people who say they have more than 200 nukes are lying who have less than 100,000 kills, particularly if they use raygun on infect, which would probably be almost 50% of their total kills.
     
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    #64 SuperBen4, Feb 20, 2014
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  5. starbo1034

    starbo1034 Well-Known Member

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    i stoped reading after the fourth paragraph
     
    #65 starbo1034, Feb 20, 2014
  6. SuperBen4

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    bottom line is that I don't think it is possible for anyone to have over 2,000 nukes unless they have well over 200,000 kills and have been nuking from their first day of joining.
     
    #66 SuperBen4, Feb 20, 2014
  7. sungho63

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    I think it should be judged by the kills over level because you can have more kills than someone higher level than you like if you use MVP or VIP.
    I'd go by the Kills
     
    #67 sungho63, Feb 20, 2014
  8. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    Penta with famas and double with model? Yes, challenge for pros :L
    Thx for zK clan owner. He was boss with famas
     
    #68 SoMuchWinning, Feb 20, 2014
  9. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    Its possible. I stopped counting my nukes when I got over 100 and that was in... july? or earlier? I don't remember.
    It IS impossible to figure out the number of nukes by using a maths thing like you did. You should always remember that there are less ffa's and gungames and onein kills and deaths don't even count for total!
     
    #69 Lord_Roke, Feb 21, 2014
  10. MafiaFerret

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    This is such a nice way of thinking, I really appreciate the time you spent doing all that stuff.
    I wouldn't say I got that many kills (80k) only on infect, I've never been a great fan of infect, I'd say I got at least 100k kills only on TDM/CTF because thats what I mostly used to play (and still play).

    I've been estimating around (or over) 200 nukes for quite a while, your theory says I have like 2.068, which is actually not too far from what I think I have, I'd say I have around 2.300-2.400 nukes. Your estimation is very precise I'd say, however, you miht have failed on that TDM/CTF/INF/ETC... is a bit wrong

    I would estimate:
    TDM/CTF (mainly ctf) - 105k
    Infect - 60k
    FFA (all kinds) - 20k
     
    #70 MafiaFerret, Feb 21, 2014
  11. mebmatt

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    Why don't we have two leaderboards? One with kdr and the other with kills..
     
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    #71 mebmatt, Feb 21, 2014
  12. Lord_Roke

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    Too many discussions which leaderboards owrths more :L
    Also the KDR leaderboard would be totally inaccurate
     
    #72 Lord_Roke, Feb 21, 2014
  13. Niek__

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    I think you should have options to choose which top you want, so you can choose what you think makes you the best. Like top KDR, kills, nukes etc.
     
    #73 Niek__, Feb 21, 2014
  14. Lord_Roke

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    Too complicated and you cant compare the kdr, kills and nukes leaderboards
     
    #74 Lord_Roke, Feb 21, 2014
  15. daniellazer2902

    daniellazer2902 Well-Known Member

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    No i have a glitch for have the best KDR ... see you got 5 kills got and disco and do a other game or just do always infect ... mothay did that he past of 3.64 to 4.0 ...
     
    #75 daniellazer2902, Feb 21, 2014
  16. Jared252525

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    In my opinion, its not based on any of these. The only way I test skill is to fight them and see how they play.
     
    #76 Jared252525, Feb 21, 2014
  17. MafiaFerret

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    wait... mebmatt uses the forums? =O

    back on topic... the kdr leaderboards would be inaccurate, if we're going to have another leaderboard it should be a complex forumla (like windcutter's formula).
     
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    #77 MafiaFerret, Feb 21, 2014
  18. Jared252525

    Jared252525 Well-Known Member

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    I agree but KNR Shouldn't bee a thing in my opinion.
     
    #78 Jared252525, Feb 21, 2014
  19. starbo1034

    starbo1034 Well-Known Member

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    Not really, KDR only compares your kills and deaths and it has nothing to do with xp or levels or credits. They should have a second KDR thing which excludes your kills in infect
     
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    #79 starbo1034, Feb 21, 2014
  20. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    What Lord Roke means by inaccurate is players who are new sometimes get extremely high KDR. Since they are new, they are not the best players. That is why a purely KDR leaderboard would be inaccurate.
     
    #80 randomcitizen1, Feb 21, 2014
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