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Why MC-War and MCBrawl is dying.

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by onik, Apr 19, 2014.

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  1. onik

    onik Well-Known Member

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    MC-War and generally MCBrawl is dying
    Yes, it is. New players wouldnt' say that probably. But I am playing on this server for 1 1/2 years now. It was an awesome server a year ago. I had a lot of fun playing and meeting cool people, I enjoyed the weekly, small but nice MC-War updates.

    About a year ago it was my favourite server. Now I am only checking the forums in the hope of seeing a new thread called "MC-War 2.o Update Changelog" to get back on the server.
    In august 2013 the MCBrawl (Multiplayer-Servers, that's what they were called before) teased a new "HUGE" update to be realeased "soon". This "soon" is now about 9 months. 9 months of nothing, except map updates for Mc-War. In the same time they changed their name, released 4 new servers (McParty, PvP, TeamHungerGames KitPvP) and took two down (Minestrike and TeamHungerGames). McParty was realy successful and is probably why McBrawl still exsists. Last year there was a big hype about the update, it was realeased once for one hour, but was taken down, because of too much lag, a test server was opened and closed, they gave the players the hope, that it would be realeased soon. It didn't. Same about Mc-WarZ, except there was an small but nice update in January :smile: .

    There were/are a ton of suggestion and new ideas from the community. You would have content for updates for a whole year. But they are all pointless if there isn't a coder who could do it. Ohh, wait there is one! Yeah! But wait? Where is he? What is he doing? The community doesn't know it, the new players don't care about it, the old one are already gone, Mc-Brawl isn't looking for new developers and MC-War is dying.

    The biggest problem is how the community is treated. The staff is doing an awesome job on moderating and administrating the servers. The McBrawl community is by far the BEST minecraft server community out there. But it's still treated like ... (You know what I mean...) . Five days of donwtime, no special thing for the community. 9 months without update, no double-xp thing or anything like that. And still there are donators, who are donating to the server, because they like it , want to support and help to improve it and they don't get what they want: "An even better server". I am one of them. I dedicated my time to MC-War. I built a new spawn for the contest (It wasn't the best, so yeah.). I helped with some maps and I donated. I did, because I loved the server and hoped that it would get even better.

    And if you are asking why I am writing such a long thread, I do it, because of this hope. But I think this hope doesn't exsist anymore. This is my last try and shout out to show you why McWar is dying. When McWar is dead. McParty will die too.

    @Admins: Don't let it die!

    - Onik

    P.S: The multiple forum updates were awesome, that make the forum the BEST one and I hope it stays like that :grinning: .
     
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  2. blankbots

    blankbots Well-Known Member

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    The flaw in this post is that you are currently under the assumption that our coder, orange451, is not doing anything to improve this server. Now, that statement is correct, but is not looking at the bigger picture. He has made a thread saying that he is more focused and concerned with events such as school. Wether or not that is still undergoing is beyond me, as I do not confront him with such things, but we should be patient with him in that he is more concerned with life events rather than this.

    There is no bias in the previous statement. I come from the same point as you. I donated, played a long time like you did, and am thinking about the future of this server. But if the future of this server is halted by more serious events, I can do no more than to be patient and wait for that eventuality.
     
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  3. Mokolee

    Mokolee Well-Known Member

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    I do agree with this though it is not fully correct. Mc-War maybe dying but it won't collapse and neither will any other MPS servers there is. However, there are some people whose interests in Mc-war are growing weaker like mine which is why I will make a thread soon as well.
     
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  4. Parkman1221

    Parkman1221 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I agree with the majority of this thread.
    It has been a while since an update, and we are waiting on it to come out. Even just a ETA would soothe the community a bit.

    I would say popularity wise, Party is more popular as of right now due to many YouTubers recording Party than War.
     
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  5. onik

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    I don't think the coder is the problem. I respect that he has other things to do and he doesn't even need to do anything. But it's the admins "job" to find a new one. I see the problem more in community <-> server relationship.
    And I agree with you that we can't do much except beeing patient and hope for the best, but I decided to make thread about it.
    In some point you are right: Servers are not totaly dying, but I don't think you want to play Mc-War with only 20 players left.
     
  6. teawithchoco

    teawithchoco Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to say this but be more patient, ok the update is supposed to be patched up since 9 months but think about there might new content anyway it's true that the community is too much on the dark
     
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  7. Usp45

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    Honestly, I agree completely with this.
    Alright, before everyone hates on me for this, I'm just giving my opinion.
    I know how orange has school, but I'm not sure why in hell's name they admins didn't hire another coder to do mc-war.
    Sure, it might not be perfect to what we are used to, but at least we could get the new update out and attract more players. When summer comes and orange doesn't have as much school, he can take back over and work with the new coder or whatever. I know we need to be patient, but after 9 months, 9 months of rage, annoyance, and impatience, I think all of our patiences have all grown quite thin.
     
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  8. anakinschroeder

    anakinschroeder Well-Known Member

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    Why not just update the server with that stuff there is from the test server ?
     
  9. BrawlerAce

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    The test server was extremely buggy. Do you want your C4 to not deal any damage? How about zombies that have to punch a person 2/3 times to kill? And what about having your stats rolled back around 4 months?
    There's a reason why it was called a test server. It was for beta testing, and was quite buggy.
     
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  10. Nani3108

    Nani3108 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting thesis.
    Maybe it's true.
    But I think as long as there are new mc-players they will not die (hopefully).
     
  11. blankbots

    blankbots Well-Known Member

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    Once summer comes, the servers will be packed again.
    Just like last year.
     
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  12. Hudstorm

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    We are not "dying". We are just not updating Mc-War as much as our more experienced players would like us too.

    Look onik, I understand how annoying it is to be waiting and waiting for something that seems like its never going to happen, but that doesn't mean we are dying. I agree with you on the part where we need to update, (This would definitely bring new players and make old players happy). But we are still a great server and community.

    #soon
    we will be resurrected
     
  13. onik

    onik Well-Known Member

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    There are new ones, but they won't stay long because of the lack of updates, etc.
    The server is actually great for new ones, just look on this thread: https://www.brawl.com/threads/13477/

    I don't think the update is the big problem. It's only that
    The update would give the community something new and cool, but what about little events like Double-Coins Weekend or donor-weapon test day?
    Like one big youtuber/serverowner said:
    "Keep the community happy, it doesn't matter how much it is, small things are always good, and they will love you" - Hypixel
     
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  14. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    Finally a thread about the lack of updates that is intelligent and well thought out! You have a few good points Onik. While I don't think Mc-war is dying, I do believe that Mc-Brawl may need a substitute coder for just a little while.

    Also, why have we not been given any news about the progress of the update? Even if the news was bad, it would still be nice to know what has been done and what still needs fixing. We don't care any more about surprises. It has been to long for that. I believe that if we were given even only a little new about the update, the community as a whole would be encouraged. Orange has not posted for over 2 months now and for all we know he could be dead. :V This utter silence is what is killing us. I suppose until we get any news about the update we will all have to be patient. Let's all just assume that the update will never come. That way we won't have to think about it....
     
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  15. jacobkolstad

    jacobkolstad Well-Known Member

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    Nothing lasts forever, I agree a lot with you. Same crap happened to a old server back in 1.8 Beta.....
    *Start flashback*
    CraftSquad was a small little server, lead by the infamous uvealmolord. He and some mods (me) ran the server for more than a year, though we was not the worlds most mature staff team.
    In about 1.0.0 official relase, they changed name to NovaCraft. In 1.2, I think, the owner became a lot inactive, and the co-owner had more or less all power. He killed the server when he changed the server from a
    no grief/towny/vanilla to a greif/raid/factions/VERY MANY plugins. The server went from 10-15 daily players to 3-5, me, a single Rank II (blue) mod, and a very few other players. Another inactive Blue Mod (Rank II) joined once, promised a huge update and revert things back to as it were in 1.8 Beta. It never happened. A few months after the promise the server had a red text reading "Can't Resolve Hostname" under the server IP, and after that, the server has never been re-opened for real.
    *End flashback*

    It's happening to this server too.
     
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  16. robertwarshot

    robertwarshot Well-Known Member

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    At least I could still nuke :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  17. ObamaTheReptile

    ObamaTheReptile Well-Known Member

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    I was also a player 2 years ago.
    I still think it's not dying.
     
  18. Niek__

    Niek__ Well-Known Member

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    Because it gets boring to play the same games for more than a year it's dying.
     
  19. whitemagnum

    whitemagnum Well-Known Member

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    When it happens im going to cry. cause i spended til now 55 USD for Mc-War.
     
  20. jacobkolstad

    jacobkolstad Well-Known Member

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    I have spent 30, I think.. What does the value pack cost?
    But yeah, if someone don't do anything soon this server will end just like NovaCraft.
     
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