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Idea Swords

Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by LordMalacath, Jun 28, 2014.

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  1. LordMalacath

    LordMalacath Active Member

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    So the only useful thing swords are for in warz is killing zombies so I was thinking why not buff and nerf them to make higher tier swords more worthwhile.
    Wood sword-takes 4 hit to kill zombie
    Stone sword-takes 3 hit to kill zombie
    Iron sword-takes normal 2 hit to kill zombie
    Diamond sword-takes 1 hit to kill zombies
    I came up with this idea so diamond sword have more of a purpose because right now diamond and wood swords aren't very different.
     
  2. xgen42

    xgen42 Well-Known Member

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    Well... The wooden sword has like 57 dura? Vs the diamond sword with just over 1500.
     
  3. bob8is8cool

    bob8is8cool Well-Known Member

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    I agree. There's my much of a difference between the swords you use. If diamond swords did one hit kills, that would be awesome.
     
  4. TheBoyGenius510

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    Diamond swords one hit zombies if you crit.
     
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  5. KingYudo

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    This needs to happen, I'm sick of all swords being 2 shots, 1 if you do a critical hit.
     
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  6. bob8is8cool

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    It'd be nice if it was normal though. It's annoying to have to crit every time.
     
  7. xgen42

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    Jump & strafe zombies. 90% one hits and rarely get hit unless there's 4+ zombies. ez munee ez lyfe
     
  8. Lunamann

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    I beg to differ. The ONLY weapon a non-donor person has to defend themselves when they first spawn after death is a wood sword (or nail bat, or wood knife, depends on texture pack, but it always is called a "wood sword".)

    And they're NOT just for zombies- I've been killed many times by reds (...well, actually, people from all three ranks) with swords, often while I'm, or both of us, are varying degrees of freshly spawned.

    I've also used blades against bandits, often when they're not paying attention or AFK. The rule of thumb is that blades are useless against people with guns when they pay attention. However, when they have only a blade themselves or have thier backs turned in or out of game, draw the sword. (Of course, if it isn't the latter, the gun is far better.)
     
  9. LordMalacath

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    Swords are mostly useless against players as they move towards better gear (one of the main points of this game) so most players wont spend much time at spawn towns killing people with swords all day as they will go to aquire better loot. Once player gets up north the swords main use is against zombies. Every person that has charged me down with a sword up north has met their deaths very swiftly. The main objective of this thread is to help buff the diamond sword for its greatest and most used purpose, and that is killing zombies. There should be more reason to go after diamond swords and something to make them feel stronger and more useful than the rest of the swords, because then again if every swords does the same damage to zombies what is the point of having wood stone iron diamond?
     
  10. Lunamann

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    Well, true. However, you also have to think about early-game balance as well. Nerfing and buffing the wood, stone, and even iron swords will significantly change how swords are used in early game, and give those with better swords a MUCH better advantage even than they already have.
     
  11. LordMalacath

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    My idea is not without it's flaws, maybe the wood stone iron swords may stay how they are and just the diamond sword be buffed, or if there is a way they can do more damage to players and less damage to zombies (not including diamond sword)
     
  12. Lunamann

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    I ahm... I'm not sure how the latter would be done, but the diamond sword buff sounds really good.

    Expecially if it could be made to compete with guns, but I'm just dreaming there. There's a reason why the sword lost to the gun in real life.
     
  13. bob8is8cool

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    Instead of making swords more powerful, why not weaken zombies?
     
  14. Lunamann

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    The big problem I have with that is that this is supposed to be a zombie survival game, not a PVP game.

    Zombies are already UP compared to bandits anyways.
     
  15. bob8is8cool

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    This is true. However, the zombies don't run around with guns, like humans do. Think of TWD. They all kill eachother.
     
  16. Lunamann

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    True. Very true.

    ...Then again I have seen zombies with guns in this game (a holdover from zombies holding shovels and swords and whatnot), they just don't shoot.
     
  17. ObamaTheReptile

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    Suggest a zombie health amount that would cause this. Currently zombies have 4 hearts (I've hit them with beans then a diamond sword: death, beans twice then iron sword: death) and that is the only amount of health that would make all swords two-shot. I agree that their health should be lowered (to 3.5 hearts, so diamond is one-hit all others are 2-hit), but we would have to raise zombie health and enchant higher tiers of swords to make this work. Personally I like the idea, but don't see it working well in the server.
     
  18. Lunamann

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    But that goes against my biggest complaint about zombies.

    THEY'RE POPCORN AS IT IS.
     
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