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Discussion in 'Ideas' started by LegalSkateboards, Jun 30, 2014.

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  1. LegalSkateboards

    LegalSkateboards Well-Known Member

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    After playing this game for the last few days, I've came to find two main irritants. The first one would be starting out with the M9 as a beginner. As I started out, I found it to be extremely complicating trying to rank up with the M9. Looking at starters from my point of view now, they seem more like bags of secondary ammo. The M9 is a poor defense weapon and offence is out of the question. The only chance of survival would be to get lucky with an OP team and mooch off of them or get lucky enough to run from all of the enemies around you. Starting out with a slightly higher powered gun would give the beginners a neutral edge in the game.
    The second problem is the people running around with the ninja class. Many people and myself see this as a really cheap way of playing and they say "it's too op", "it shouldn't exist", or "ninja it makes it too easy to win". I've had a ninja user take out my entire stacked team because it was impossible to detect him when he put his gun away. It doesn't surprise me when a team-less ninja user wins a match him/herself. I've talked with a handful of people and it seems the most reasonable thing to do is give it a time limit for the invisibility.
     
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  2. Timg3661

    Timg3661 Well-Known Member

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    I agree on both occasions. I feel as though the M9 is a poor gun to start out with and I feel as though the Ninja kit is too overpowered. I recommend that those with the Ninja kit should only be able to go invisible for a small time period and the invisibility should be on a cool-down.
     
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  3. EniGmaa_JG

    EniGmaa_JG Well-Known Member

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    So true!
     
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  4. Darkchaosknight

    Darkchaosknight Well-Known Member

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    1. I agree the M9 Default isn't the best kit however it isn't supposed to. When I started, I found running away from spawn and gathering was the best way to go. By running from spawn, you can get the supplies necessary to fight people at spawn when returning. The most important thing to note about the default is having a pistol. Most pistol like the M9 (with smaller caliburs) are built on protecting you in a defensive way. It isn't suppose to an offensive weapon.

    2. The ninja kit is OP as you can't be seen however it does have its flaws. For one, you cannot have armor meaning a simple shot from something like the M9 does do massive damage. Also, your tracker is actually very useful for finding ninjas. By using it's pointer to find them and then seeing their particles, Ninja's can go down quite easily. Once mastered, players like @xgen42 generally are never killed by ninjas based on what I've seen. Last, you must keep one hotbar spot open always to use ninja correctly. This open spot is used so you aren't seen with a weapon. This lack of a spot means you don't have a complete hotbar which really can hurt in a fight against someone stacked and who knows where you are. Also if you get a killstreak marker or pick up loot accidentally while near enemies, you are essentially dead (I've had this happen to me way to much to even count) Overall, you may find the ninja overpowered however once mastered fighting against them, they are easy to be vanquished.
     
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  5. EniGmaa_JG

    EniGmaa_JG Well-Known Member

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    Even with tracker and and OP guns you cannot beat someone who you can't see. Simple as that. Let's say you have Half Iron and a mini gun, well A ninja can come up behind you and still one **** you. I know they have no armor but still how can you see where he is. Trackers won't help cause they only show you the direction not the meters of how far away an enemy is from you.
     
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  6. ZapCrusher

    ZapCrusher Well-Known Member

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    Ninja is waaaayyyyyyyyy too op :/
    Should be nerfed, my team was killed silently because we didn't know where he was,
    When ninjas get op guns, it's an insta-lose, NOTHING you can do :/
     
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  7. xgen42

    xgen42 Well-Known Member

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    Ninja really isn't that OP.. Every time I've fought one, I've won. Not trying to be cocky either but it's true. If your tracker keeps rapidly turning and you're not in a multi-story building, just shoot roughly where the ninja should be. Worked for me against @Parkman1221 :wink:
     
  8. EniGmaa_JG

    EniGmaa_JG Well-Known Member

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    They've nerfed it already. I guess your the only one who thought they were non OP
     
  9. Krcoon

    Krcoon Well-Known Member

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    You shouldn't be able to see ninjas on your tracker, unless they changed that...
     
  10. Parkman1221

    Parkman1221 Well-Known Member

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    Well, the kits are/have been balanced and we are still working to balance them even more for the newer players.

    For the ninja kit, most of our staff have agreed to not use the Ninja kit until it is fixed or nerfed. For now, just don't worry about mods using the Ninja kit (since we are the only ones who can use it so far).
     
  11. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    At the moment, normal players can't use the ninja kit and staff is not allowed to. So no need to worry at the moment.
    Ninja will be nerfed, I heard they will make it so you become visible for 5 seconds when you shoot a gun or when you are close to a other player.
     
  12. demonguy567

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    Well i imagine fight a ninja would be easy i u have a machine gun or something like mini gun they are basically 1 shot with any sniper or d eagle
     
  13. demonguy567

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    Staff can't use it i think thats what andy cb and others said
     
  14. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    We could use it, be we are not allowed to cause its just toounfair and it would cause too much rage.
     
  15. demonguy567

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    Thats what i meant
     
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