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DDOS protection

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by MemeGodKevin, Aug 3, 2014.

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Should the staff look for D'DoS solutions?

  1. YES. The server is being destroyed by D'DoS

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  2. It would be nice

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  3. It isn't big enough a problem to warrant D'Dos protection

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  1. MemeGodKevin

    MemeGodKevin Well-Known Member

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    As we all know, d'dos is a big problem affecting the war and warz servers. We need some solutions. First, if someone d'doses, we should make it a permaban, with no ability to appeal or buy an unban.

    There are also many d'dos protection programs out there. WE NEED ONE. There are many people who are being d'dosed and leaving. One HUGE example is the case of @Gynamo. You can read his story here https://www.brawl.com/threads/19830

    If we want to save the community (even though the community is HORRIBLE, even without the d'dos) we need to do this
     
  2. RainbowKaro

    RainbowKaro Well-Known Member

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    I agree, I don't get ddos'd a lot but it's sad to see people go for that specific reason.
     
  3. mousers_teh_epic

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    Though i personally don't think i've ever been d'dosed on this server i feel as if it would be a nice thing to have for those that are being d'dosed but, as a lot of it cant be stopped by the server because the d'dos isn't run through the server... you can easily get peoples ip through skype which is often used to the play the server.
     
  4. SkapeYin

    SkapeYin Well-Known Member

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    Permban wont affect anything really. Usually ddosers/hackers have many alternative accounts + if they get IP banned they can just get a VPN And bam back onto the mcbrawl servers .
     
  5. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    According to Putty, it is your job to be careful. If someone is DDosing you, then it's your own fault for telling someone you don't completely trust your Skype. Mcbrawl isn't a DDoS protection service. If you want to find out how to guarantee a 100% protection from DDoS, refer to this security guide here.
     
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  6. Snail_5_

    Snail_5_ Switched Accounts "Phobia"

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    There is not much McBrawl can do to you to prevent you from being D DoSed. Sure they can attempt at taking care of them, but they will find a way to boot you off. D Dossing has gotten out of hand these days. :l
     
  7. GreenPeas

    GreenPeas The man, the myth, the meme

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    I understand your concern but may I just run over a few points real quick.
    1. I don't really know what you're talking about regarding we need to get DDoS protection. All of McBrawl's servers are covered by 24 hour DDoS protection via our server host. Whenever we are hit with a large enough attack, our network admin Yinscape usually resolves the issues in a matter of minutes.
    2. As stated above, McBrawl is not DDoS Protectection and advise service here to help you with all your DDoS protection related needs. We host and produce Minecraft Servers for players world-wide to play on. We manage Server to player related issues. We have very little control over player to player issues (such as DDoS).
    3. It is very difficult to provide conclusive evidence of who DDoSed who. We do not use Skype conversations as a sufficient source of evidence as it is very easy to create fake accounts or inpersonate others via skype. Also, there are certain hacked clients knocking around that enable it's users to forge false messages in chat from other players. So even screenshots of what supposedly is a DDoS threat in chat are not 100% faultless peices of evidence.
    4. We have given you more than enough informaiton about protecting yourself from DDoS attacks, that was created to assist our players, it was not something we were inclined to do.
    5. Believe it or not, DDoS is a big thing in most minecraft communities these days. Somehow, this childish habbit has managed to work it's way in to the very culture of Multiplayer Minecraft, it is not just McBrawl that has players using DDoS software.
    Apologies if i've missed anything out, I am actually on vacation at the moment so this was awfully rushed but it is a topic I hate to see brought on our forums, so I felt I had to address it one way or another.
     
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  8. Gynamo

    Gynamo Well-Known Member

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    The thing is that, it didn't work. A long time ago i followed all of putty's tips, but some people just don't give up. I even tried a vpn, and it didn't change anything. I'm sure puttys guide does work for most cases, but some are just so extreme that barely anything helps.
     
  9. GreenPeas

    GreenPeas The man, the myth, the meme

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    VPN's only mask your IP. If your IP was resolved before you activated your VPN, then it would have offered little protection.
     
  10. revenger2112

    revenger2112 Active Member

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    What's DDoS?
     
  11. SkapeYin

    SkapeYin Well-Known Member

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    1. Distributed Denial of Service Attack (DDoS) Definition. A denial of service (DoS) attack is a malicious attempt to make a server or a network resource unavailable to users, usually by temporarily interrupting or suspending the services of a host connected to the Internet.
     
  12. RainbowKaro

    RainbowKaro Well-Known Member

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    You don't have to know someone's skype to get their IP, it happened to me a few times that the person found my skype and then my IP.
     
  13. yinscape

    yinscape The Hedgehog Princess

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    We are protected, however, players are not. People have to obtain your ip to DDoS you in the first place though. This usually involves you clicking on a link or obtaining your skype somehow.
     
  14. jacobkolstad

    jacobkolstad Well-Known Member

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    I suppose McBrawl are protected already.. If not Yin must be doing his job wrong.

    And it's weird I have never been DDoS'ed, even though I piss half the community off.
     
  15. teawithchoco

    teawithchoco Well-Known Member

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    If someone is Ddosing you it doesn't go trough the servers. The servers are Ddos protected anyway, also do you even know how someone ddos you ? Do search about it because this will help you understand how they do ( which is simple ) and how to protect yourself
     
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  16. MemeGodKevin

    MemeGodKevin Well-Known Member

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    Ok, so the real solution here will be being smart about who you give your skype to or follow links from
     
  17. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    Maybe because you're smart enough to not reveal your Skype or click a strange link? :V
     
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  18. Loto4758

    Loto4758 Active Member

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    Dont mess with the wrong people and dont click links or give out your skype.
     
  19. Zippy999

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    #19 Zippy999, Aug 4, 2014
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  20. Loto4758

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    People will say they will it you off half of the time (which they never really do) cuz there 8 year old kids :stuck_out_tongue:. Ive also heard kids say they have a bot net. Which is a lie. Half of the people that say they will ddos you wont even . 1 they dont got a booter 2 they dont wanna get caught. Ddosing is illegal and If you get caught you will get in a lot of trouble. Usually you shouldn't worry about someone saying there going to hit you off if they dont have your skype or you didnt get ip logged.
     
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