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Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by BlueSideWind, Aug 2, 2014.

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  1. BlueSideWind

    BlueSideWind Active Member

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    how is that a problem IF you go through the same process? If an mod ban a player doesn't it tell the super mod right away?

    Example:

    I ban player 1

    player 1 is not banned.

    Super mod get a message saying Moderator banned player 1. Here is evidence and so forth. if its un-justify than he will be warnned while the player banned is unbanned. 3 strikes you out. Understand?
     
  2. GlobalistCuck

    GlobalistCuck Well-Known Member

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    The problem is, if moderators have the power to permanently ban or to ban hackers on sight, then you would get a lot of people applying and maybe even some people getting accepted just so they can abuse the rank. The main purpose of the moderator is to make sure chat stays clean and to help out people with questions or problems. Report hackers is also part of the job, but that is mainly left up to the Super-Mods. They go invisible and try to catch hackers as often as they can, but there are many servers with hackers and they have lives too. One of our S-Mods, @Colonel_Chris handles in-game reports, so if you catch a hacker, upload the video to youtube then submit it in the Report a Rule Breaker section of the forums. If the evidence is legitimate, the player will be banned within 24 hours. But if you just upload the video, how are the staff supposed to know? I hope this has cleared some things up for you.
     
  3. BlueSideWind

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    " and they have lives too."

    well then give mods ability to ban.
    s- mod check evidence
    if no good they get unbanned and maybe a week of pro mvp or w.e

    Also there was a mod in my game and he didnt do anything. FF for days and he didnt do anything. Which I suggest more mods. Because 10 mods or w.e the server amount is fine.

    And whats so hard with making a Thread name Hacker Banned/Hacker Evidence?

    Not only it points out videos but the community can judge players who are accused hackers. But end of the day it will still be s-mod with the ban hammer. But if more evidence shows he will then have a better understanding that his previous saving might not been a good idea
     
  4. BrawlerAce

    BrawlerAce Well-Known Member

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    If moderators could ban, they could use the command as abuse, banning anyone they wanted.
    That would cause more work for super mods. Moderators are primarily chat moderators, as they do not have the ability to ban and shouldn't be able to ban. On most servers mods can only kick.
    That mod didn't do anything because he doesn't have the authority to deal with hackers on the spot. That's the same with all moderators. He probably recorded the hackers, or they weren't actually hacking.
    There is a report submission form on a different page so that it's easier for super mods and admins to handle, so that the PDB is kept updated, so that they can stay organized, and so that people without forum accounts can report players.
    To show it to the community at this point is unprofessional, and it can provoke other players to do malicious activities. I prefer the current anonymous reporting system.
     
  5. BlueSideWind

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    [QUOTE="BrawlerAce_," I prefer the current anonymous reporting system.[/QUOTE]

    since its too long I'll quote that much. If you were to actually want to go all maniac about it. Then you would have to look up tons and tons of videos to see who hacks since it is a "Thread" You would have to watch videos and videos of players who are accussed hacking to even harass players who hack. If you did this from the beginning you wouldve had a giant list by now. BUT since you want to hide the fact that let say you hack and you regret it. Ask the Moderator to delete that "Thread" that way players cant find it BUT know that youtube will always have it because the player you killed unfairly will never take down that video.

    but moving on if Mods do Kick and they were hacking it should be fine since they are force quit and Im sure they can make it so that it wasn't Combat Log.

    IF Moderators are abusing. Is the S-Mod too dumb to banned him from the entire server. And since he had power and use it wrongly he can pay EXTRA fees for getting unbanned.

    Now then bring on the BAD MODS because they would just be helping the McBrawl make extra cash. Abuse all they like or leave permanently. I mean if they dont want to buy an unban for lets say 15 dollars because they abuse moderator power they can either

    buy unban
    buy new account 30 dollars
    play a new server

    Now seeing as this benefit the Community why is it such a bad thing to have multiple moderators?
     
  6. BrawlerAce

    BrawlerAce Well-Known Member

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    Now, let me make one thing clear -
    McBrawl isn't about the money. A moderator shouldn't abuse permissions at all. We shouldn't do this just to keep Brawl rich and stuff.
    Plus, what if a mod accidentally bans the wrong person? Like they're banning ThatHacker69 but accidentally ban someone else because of a tab mistake. They can't unban, so they'd have to wait for a super mod.
    Anyways, on to the last part.
    Having multiple moderators isn't bad, but giving them abilities that super mods have would make super mods useless and would make abuse more likely.
     
  7. BlueSideWind

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    I do remember saying "Kick" not banned in my previous comment. But with Brawl getting money and getting rid of Abusive players and hackers you make it sound like its a bad thing. Besides Players who do ban or an admin will get a giant penalty no one would want to pay the fee making ABUSIVE banning or kicking not an option. Besides this is a server you can check what is said in chat to see if it was abusive kicking in the first place.
     
  8. Le_Mure

    Le_Mure Well-Known Member

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    I don't know at all what you are trying to say. After reading carefully I conclude:

    1. You want a new ban system.
    It consist of:
    When a player calls a SMOD, the SMOD bans the suspect AND THEN he gets a video proof of hacking.
    NO IT WON'T HAPPEN.

    2. IT'S YOUR JOB AS A NORMAL PLAYER to record send proof and ban the hackers in question. The staff ISN'T OMNISCIENT.

    3. The staffs ARE VOLUNTEERS they have school, work, familly,ect.

    4. NO we do NOT need 10 mod per server since YOU have the power to ban people by sending proof to staff.
     
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  9. bobssss

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    The s mods and up will take care of it

    Let the staff deal with it
     
  10. BlueSideWind

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    lmao then kick those people off and get new admin. You want admin who are active not who are I'll join play. because this just happened again. Admin joins the game. He doesnt even go invisible. Hacker logs off. I messaged him he is useless. What kind of admin joins to check a hacker while totally showing his name to everyone?

    what I suggest was

    Make a admin per server.

    If Admin abuse power Perm ban 20 bucks unban.

    Admin must go invisible to check for hacks and record. Or do other means to test if they are really hacking.

    Right now they go fight die and they say fight seem legit. goes on playing. They do not even second guess it. Making them useless. How often do they have a moderator per server? They join 10 minutes and leave. Not only that once hacker know admin is online they log off. I mean their purple name is a dead giveable

    Besides the video proof sent has been declined multiple times because I still see them on line and using the same hacks.

    Proof? Sent. Admin check? WE DON'T KNOW! was it not enough proof? You can tell if someone is hacking by the way how they combo you but you get invincibility for a slight delay. and if you listen carefully you can tell all the videos I posted had the same combo sound which is too fast and too accurate for each encounter. Which by the way are different players with the same combo hits. What did SMOD do? not ban? because he doesn't know? or is he too lazy to even figure that out?

    so let me point it out again.

    Admin/mod don't care. that or they are friends with the hackers and don't want them banned which have happened in other servers before. If you even bother to look up on youtube this is a guy who's a repeated offender and even have videos in different servers where he was hacking yet he is still online here and still hacking. We're talking recent purchased ban here.

    Baned twice bought unban twice. And comes looking up on youtube and he still hacks on other servers + warz.

    you say let the staff deal with it? Well they not doing it. Why? they have school and etcs? Make a new mod and replace him or make an apprentice mod to replace the one who can't join and play and check at the same time. I know servers who are large and spend an hour invisible following 1 guy to make a 100% sure ban video even though he already shown he was hacking.
     
  11. Le_Mure

    Le_Mure Well-Known Member

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    1 We cannot ban a player for hacking ON ANOTHER sever than Brawl.

    2 If he hacks on another server it's none of our business

    3 I hate repeating myself, IT'S YOUR JOB AS A NORMAL PLAYER to report hackers and make the community better.

    4 How can a staff know you are lying or not when you say that person hack? 50% of the players calls hacks when they die because they are sore losers.

    5 If you want an hacker banned. Record him and report him ON THE FORUMS. TAKE A VIDEO POST IT ON YOUTUBE AND REPORT IT ON THE FORUMS

    Yeah also, making more mods stalking them, demoting abusive mods are a lot of trouble.
     
  12. bobssss

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    ya the mods do the same thing as us recorded and report smods and above can ban people right then and there
     
  13. Paul

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    I don't understand what you are saying.

    Do you want moderators to have the ability to ban hackers? Or do you want us to hire more SMODS and Admins so that way hackers can be caught a lot quicker?
     
  14. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    @BlueSideWind I think you are just not getting one fact: We can't add as many new "admins" or whatever you want to call them AND still have only staff members who fill their position well. Its really hard to find someone who would make a good moderator: They need to be very active on all parts of McBrawl, they need to be mature and of course they should also want that position. There are only a few players who fill all the requirements listed above.
    And those are ONLY the requirements for moderators - moderators who can do nothing more than kick players for up to an hour, mute users on TS3 and lock forums threads.
    You can imagine the requirements for SMod and Admin.

    So your ideas need a large amount of staff members with a lot of power. We would need to give players who normally wouldn't even achieve moderators, powers like perm ban.
    And I can tell you that aboosing staff members are worse than the few hackers every minecraft server has to deal with.

    Our system might be slow and make mistakes, but I can't imagine a better one that would work.
     
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  15. BlueSideWind

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    done that and done. the admins cant tell a killaura/ff to save their lives lol

    oh and btw there is a better system which btw you guys shot down no matter how many times I said it. And there is a server who actually does what I said which is stalk, test double check and etcs. While recording the entire thing (as in checking if they hack)

    I wont name server because Im sure that would be called advertising.

    Make New Thread.
    Hacker Proof.
    Hacker Banned.
    Insignificant Report.

    Players will see. Players will comment. Players will watch out for that player.

    The fact that a repeated offender who was banned twice is still in game is fine but sadly he still hacks and yet to be banned.
     
  16. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    Did you even read my post? I told you that we don't have and will never have enough staff members to do this "check. Double check" system.
     
  17. bobssss

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    Yes you have a great point but I think he is just saying its a idea
     
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