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Regarding joeymast99's Ban

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by chickenputty, Aug 14, 2014.

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Should joeymast99 have one more chance?

Poll closed Aug 21, 2014.
  1. Yes, unban him

    78 vote(s)
    61.4%
  2. No, keep him banned

    37 vote(s)
    29.1%
  3. I don't care

    12 vote(s)
    9.4%
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  1. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    Alright, I see your point.
    I feel he should be given one more chance.
     
  2. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    joey was DDoSing players on kjh. jakob and Monolyth joined his clan when kjh owned LTX, and they were both about to leave. When kjh found out about this, he threatened to DDos them if they left. They both left, and kjh kept his word and ddosed both of them. This is why jakob made his outro a while ago about him being Ddosed. How he may have lost his home because of it. Gynamo also told me that kjh had been ddosing him. Not just kjh, a lot of LTX members. Why? Because joey hated all of Gynamo's clans. Zyth, DawZ, all of them.

    joey has not learned his lesson, and how do we know he won't just go back to ddosing again. He has been given too many chances.

    And guys, do you really think joey has learned his lesson? Do none of you remember how he tried to get me banned by saying he was me? That was VERY great of him.

    He has been given too many chances, and he blew all of them. As Public once said, we can't just unban ddosers just because they put on a sad please and beg. Some of you forgot, Ddosing is illegal. I don't want to take the risk of pardoning one of the most rude, malicious players on McBrawl.

    -1.
     
  3. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    He was completely joking ever time he said he was you :l
    Do we really have proof jakob and Gynamo and all the other actually got DDoSed by Joey himself and not some other random person?
     
  4. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    He wasn't joking at first. I remember kcl saying that he was really trying to get me banned at first, and then it turned into a joke overtime.

    Also, I don't see much proof that joey has really changed.
     
  5. iErebos

    iErebos Well-Known Member

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    Joey did not DDoS Gynamo. Hating a clan is not a reason to DDoS, and while he did DDoS a lot, that would be a stupid reason. Joey had changed, and he has never and never will DDoS Gynamo.
     
  6. EmperorCreeperIV

    EmperorCreeperIV Well-Known Member

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    It's ganna be one more chance ONE
    It feels that joey should be given just another chance for the time..
    there is more then one DDoSer out there. It's not just joey doing it all the time to everyone. Also, telling someone someone is an alt is totally no proof until someone ip checks them.

    And there is total proof he changed man.
     
  7. Thwer

    Thwer Well-Known Member

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    Have you ever given anyone a chance? I have. I case you haven't here's how it goes: they apologize. You either forgive or don't. If you don't, its the end. If you do they will change so they don't do the same. And if they do it again, you say ok, I'm done. But he's had longer then that to think of his actions. He deserves this chance. This last shot. Kcl did worse. So if someone who did worse gets pardonned, someone who did less should be even more
     
  8. GaNeBaL

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    You cannot be serious..

    You're using this as your argument but where is the proof? Most of them were just rumors, which you implied because joey was the elephant in the room, but there was no proof...

    also, you cannot think that he was serious about getting you banned? First of all, joey knew how to proficiently evade a major class ban for over 3 months without being caught, he knew evereything about how to find loopholes in people's officiality meaning he knew if people would catch on to alternates.
    The staff had no real motive to believe that you were him and you, for the millionth time, overreacted like the little kid you are.
    It was a JOKE, formed late at night when he and others were fooling around. I WAS THERE.
    The conversation went something like this:
    Joey- Aw ****, tallscot killed me with the iso.
    kcl- ban
    me- agreed
    joey- good idea, lol wat if we actually try it
    kcl - lmao
    me - HA
    kcl- MAYBE WE GO ON TEAMSPEAK AND SAY TO PUTTY
    Joey & kcl - YOU KNOW THAT ***** TALLSCOT, HE JOEYMAST!!!

    and that is how the joke ran on.
    The funniest part is how you so immaturely reacted to the situation. Instead of ignoring the comment when people said that, you would rudely oblige or even make a pointless forum rant post.
    Most of your arguements are weak, and I believe they are based off of past grudges.
    If you really feel a person cannot change then I do not think you know people well.
     
  9. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Alright, fine. YOu all have convinced me. Give joey one more chance. But if he DDoSes again, which a lot of you say is unlikely, it needs to be a permanent ban. No more making "apology" videos, because it'll just lead us back here again.
     
  10. _PublicEnemy_

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    For example lets say someone murdered your entire family, went to prison, comes back puts on puppy eyes and says sorry. Would you trust them? I don't care if their a jump but, the rule still applies, Trust me People DO NOT CHANGE.
     
  11. Usp45

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    No it really doesn't lol.
     
  12. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Well, I changed from an extreme hackusator to the person I am today, so....
    Don't get me wrong. I'm 75% sure he's going to be DDoSing again, but these people think he's changed, so let's just see what happens.
     
  13. _PublicEnemy_

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    So, If he ddosed you would you trust him NO. Rule applies.
     
  14. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    Well, killing my family members and killing my Internet for a bit are two very different things.
     
  15. EmperorCreeperIV

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    If the murderor had to explain his self there would be nothing to explain because he totally murdered them for no reason.
    Joey didn't just put puppy eyes on and say sorry. he explained the whole story.
    which totally made absolute sense
     
  16. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Yes, they are two very different things.

    However, joey has already been banned several times and already appealed/purchased an unban several times. Look at joey's ban log. There's that much bans on there, plus the bans that were there before they cleared the ban logs.
     
  17. BrawlerAce

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    I sure hope he has changed.
    I'm not sure what to say - I don't believe his initial permanent ban was fair, as it was based on an older invalid screenshot that a certain jerk used to report him; however, as a moderator, I kept getting reports over and over about his alt, kjhgamer. Provided he is watched very, very closely however, I'm sure one last chance is fine, although his other alt accounts should remain banned.
     
  18. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    Joey got his bans after the ban log reset.
     
  19. _PublicEnemy_

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    But that's not the matter would you trust either of them?
    I can lie to make you believe me too.
     
  20. bob8is8cool

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    Gonna try and keep this clean... We all know me though...

    I vote to unban him. Never knew him, but it appears he had a bad past with McBrawl. He's changed though, and we should let him stay. We made a rule to ban alts. Specknav is an alt. He's changed in the staff's eyes, so we kept him. Joeymast has changed, according to several members in the community. We should let him stay too. Except... what if he hasn't changed? What if when he joins, he does what he always does, except no one finds out for a while? McBrawl just made a huge mistake, they let one of the worst members ever back into the community, and he does what he's always done. Lots of people would be upset, the reputation of the server would go down, and everything would go crazy. Threads would be made concerning the issue with Specknav. How can we trust him? He was almost as bad if not as bad as Joeymast. How do we know he's completely changed? However, I may be completely wrong. He can possible change, and be a great member. A month down the road, someone else gets banned. They do what Joey does. Tons of people want him back on the server, and now they can say that Joeymast got unbanned so why can't [Banned_Player] get unbanned too? Then McBrawl must choose to keep that player banned or unban them, in which this entire thing starts again. Keep him banned, how can we trust Joeymast? Unban him, someone else will do what Joey and this made up person did. Does McBrawl want to start a domino effect? Unbanning him will only do so.

    After making this, I've changed my vote to no, keep him banned.

    The amount of truth in this is over 9000. And before anyone says that crossing the bridge to compare a ban to murder is extreme, remember that Joeymast DDoS'ed over Minecraft, a federal crime over a video game.
     
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