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Idea Spectator mode + anti-cheat alerts available to everyone

Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by Jingca2012, Aug 24, 2014.

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  1. Jingca2012

    Jingca2012 Active Member

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    Just thought that everyone on WarZ should be able to spectate others without any interference with the game (spectators cant hit players, cant block snowballs/gunshots etc). This would help a lot with hackers on warz and would also (maybe) prevent nearly undetectable hacks like aimbot and ff (spectators could come near other players to see if they are using these hacks). Also, it would be a good idea to maybe let everyone have anticheat alert to help with player reports (if someone is hacking and you record it, it would be good to have anti cheat support for more evidence).
     
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  2. MR_naenae_1738

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    If you mean you could spectate like miner movies, then +1.

    BUTTTT, If you can spectate WHILE the action is going on...
    You can "spectate" yourself to nether, and then see if anyone is there.
     
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    SquishFish Well-Known Member

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    I agree with edin61265 that is a thing that would become popular but if many people were doing that i guess no one would go. Spector mode in my opinion should be considered if your able to be inside them and see them fight
     
  4. Jingca2012

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    I mean you can spectate while the action is going on however you cannot interfere with the action (you can block shots and stuff like that).
     
  5. Javed

    Javed Well-Known Member

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    I just record a miners movie whenever I play WarZ. That way if I sense any foul play, I can go back and review it all.

    But to stay on topic, how would you go into spectate mode? When would you? How would you set this up so that you can't just spectate and see where the enemy is camping?
     
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    however miners movies rarely helps you detect hacks like aimbot, but with this spectate mode, you could get near the player and check if they aimbot or not. Because currently there's like no way you can detect these hacks unless you can up close and sandwich the hacker. Smods and admins can't help either as players can just friend them with their hacked clients to not target them with their hacks.

    And if you want to spectate, the system will automatically /kill you. As for knowing where the enemy is camping, we can already find that out by ourselves just by doing f3+a or by using a compass
     
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    Javed Well-Known Member

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    That's what miners movies does. You can shadow any player in it, and pretty much float one block above their head. Additionally, if breathing down their neck isn't enough, you can pause the playback and break walls and buildings so you can better view the events.
     
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    however floating on top of their heads won't detect aimbot as its only after the event has happened
     
  9. randomthing64

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    I reckon instead of auto killing people to spectate, as this will annoy many players, there could be a /spectate command which allows you to spectate, yet you can still be attacked and the command will have a cooldown of 2 mins, like a MVP teleport
     
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    Javed Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure what the difference is between what you want and what you can do in miners movies.
     
  11. Scoat2

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    Just like he said, using this program can be really helpful for replays/ recording hackers. https://miners-movies.com
    Isn't that a good thing? If you could spectate in real time that would create a huge advantage for your team over the enemy. Supermods and admins have this ability only because they are trusted not to exploit it.
     
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    I strongly disagree with the second part.
    The first part seems like, something that would make it pointless to play WarZ. Why play, when you could stay in spectator the whole time? And what would happen to your stuff?
    As for players being able to see NCP alerts, the reason why I strongly disagree is because NCP is a derpy plugin. It sometimes thinks that doing legit actions is suspicious, and sends an alert. People could and would exploit that to ban anyone they want.
     
  13. stellabuscus

    stellabuscus Well-Known Member

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    I agree with the spectate mode, no cheat alerts though.
    Example: If someone was trying to fly, it would spam the HELL out of your chat with alerts. Also, players could get banned for lagging with this. No-Cheat picks up lagging players but declares them as hackers. Lets say they lag so hard it looks like blink, then no-cheat would say "BLINK BLINK BLINK" a million times in chat, even though the player was lagging. As always, they would say "Oh, I'm just lagging! Don't ban me!" But of course people wouldn't take it, because every single hacker uses that for an excuse.

    But in spectate mode I'd add some suggestions:
    Use the mode by doing /spectate on, it would give the player a clear inventory, fly mode, and a menu to spectate a player.
    NOTE: Theres a downside to this. Shotblocking.
    If players stood in front of someone in spec mode, they could block they're shots, making it impossible to hit a player.
    Also, they could block placing barb wire, cutting barb wire, killing zombies, getting chests, and more.
    If they could fix the above ^ I would be fine, but for now, its a big no no.
     
  14. Thwer

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    I think this can be a better idea if:
    No anti cheat alerts for everyone. That is not the player's duty.
    Cannot go into the mode if enemy is within 100 blocks. If you are fighting someone, he could just go into spectate mode and basically log.

    Otherwise, good idea. +1?
     
  15. MR_naenae_1738

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    Yes, ik, but maybe you were dead, And "Spectate" To see if anyone is at nether.
    Like, if you're dead. And you're planning to go to nether, you turn on the spectator mode, get to nether, and see if anyone is there.
     
  16. Jingca2012

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    You can't detect aimbot with miners, you will be able to detect aimbot with spectator mode.

    Guys I'm just gonna spill it now, the whole point of this idea is for players to be able to detect and record hackers that are using aimbot. Because this hack is currently nearly undetectable unless two enemy players sandwich the aimbot ting player and record him. Admins and smods in spectator mode (/v) cannot detect aimbot as hacking players probably have made it so that they won't target these staff with aimbot. Normal players however could detect these hacks as the hackers will not friend everyone in th game. Also as for the abuse of this command, after spectate mode, players could have to have a cool down for tps right after they spectate
     
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    If someone was hiding from someone or running from them the other person could spectate them and find out where they are. I don't think it's a good idea I would just use miners movie.
     
  18. Javed

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    Miners movies records all chat messages you receive, so it would get anti cheat alerts as well as being able to watch for aimbot.
     
  19. Jingca2012

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    for the love of my sanity, miners movies for the last time cannot watch for aimbot, if you flew on top of an aimbot hacker you can't detect his aimbot
     
  20. Javed

    Javed Well-Known Member

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    I'm not clear on what you mean by "detect" aimbot. You can see if his head spins around, and you still get the anti cheat message in the chat saying that they were aimbotting.
     
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