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What is your view on the recoil?

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by Flaming_Alpaca, Oct 3, 2014.

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do you like the recoil?

  1. yes

    25 vote(s)
    49.0%
  2. no: explain why

    26 vote(s)
    51.0%
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  1. RockTomb

    RockTomb Ex Legacy Manager + SMOD

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    Just like I said, worst update.
     
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  2. poskeharen

    poskeharen Well-Known Member

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    Ok, in my point of view, there is some good things, and some bad things regarding the new recoil.
    -Now you can't jump around and shoot with every gun. Minigun was extremely op when recoil was removed. I remember I used minigun like it was a skull-crusher. It was fun for me, but it didn't feel like a played to game properly.
    -You can't jump with lemantation and other automatics. It kinda feels weird to jump around with a gun that actually is a light machine-gun, so I'm happy they added recoil to the non-burst guns. Also, disassembler isn't so good anymore because of recoil, and I think that's sad, mainly due to the fact that I used to use it, jump around, and get some nice kills. Now you almost have to camp with it :/
    -I think the recoil on 3-round bursts guns are horrible. I mean, what used to be the best thing about 3-round burst guns was that you could jump around while shooting. Now you can't do that anymore, and I think that's sad.
    It also makes the game more realistic, and that's cool.

    So, my point is that the recoil should be there except for 3-round burst guns and maybe disassembler.
     
  3. Knaber

    Knaber Well-Known Member

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    Yea, at least it would be nice if they fixed that glitch/bug that happends when you shoot in midair..
     
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  4. DenMik122

    DenMik122 Well-Known Member

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    Before the recoil, you could jump while shooting with skully. That made it fun. Now it feels almost like i can't move :V
     
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  5. sjuka_legogubbar

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    I dont like it because i cant run (in infect) and when im standing still im gettin pushed away


    EDIT: you get critical hit if you jump shot (i mean when youre up in the air)that is realy good with some guns.
     
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  6. HERO_of_OZ

    HERO_of_OZ Active Member

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    Mini gun is now useless it's fire rate is so powerful that u can barely walk a pixel I got Quad nuke with mini gun once now I can'even get a 5ks :mad:

    Not just that use shotguns and the recoil to reach in reach able spot harder for infect
     
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  7. WWEDX3

    WWEDX3 Active Member

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    Like mafia said they are taking away big things that helped a lot of players.

    I think This recoil thing should be taken away like mafia said it takes away trickshots it takes away how most players used those guns,It takes away jump shooting all these good things that people did all gone. If you look at the vote on this thread and why people said no it clearly states all these reasons. Most people don't want this recoil {If you look at the vote} so they should go with what mc-war community wants, and remove recoil.
     
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  8. BrawlerAce

    BrawlerAce Well-Known Member

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    From what I've seen the view on recoil is quite mixed. This thread, it's pretty much a tie. It's not "most people don't want recoil" at all. However, on a different thread, more people liked recoil. And on a different one more people liked no recoil. So it's pretty unclear.
    If it's the bugs involving recoil, then I suppose that's fine, since it can be fixed so that you can do trick shots and stuff (@mafiaferret ) as soon as you jump off a roof without having to wait a bit before shooting, which can also be considered a viable option for now.
    Other than the issues with recoil I think it's fine as it is. If I'm correct, recoil always has worked like that. It seems that the majority of the complaints are coming from people who have gotten used to the lack of recoil over the 5 months that it was gone, and then from some people who dislike the fact that the Skullcrusher and other recoil-less guns were nerfed to have recoil.

    So if I'm correct it's those derps and bugs with recoil that makes most players dislike it, right?
     
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  9. SALSAA

    SALSAA Well-Known Member

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    After all this discussion and controversy, here is my perspective on this matter and the conclusion that most of the Mc-War Community is leading to: The War Community doesn't not enjoy the knockback at all, saying that they cannot jump or run whilst sprinting. Plus, you get teleported back when you try to trickshot a guy. WELL GUESS WHAT: @mafiaferret of like the two years you've been here, you've NEVER EVER realized that you lag back during airshots? I used to lag back during airshots all the time, and it is probably a NoCheat plugin preventing this, since the recoil is probably similar to Anti-KB/fly hacks in the air. Also, for those who are butthurt about not being able to shoot while jumping, welcome to CoD. MC-War is mainly based off of Call of Duty, and you can't sprint at top speed while shooting, nor can you repeatly jump whilst shooting (Most people only do it once because in CoD it's stupid AF and it doesn't work one tiny bit). In Call of Duty and basically every other FPS game that obeys logic/physics, you walk around slower while shooting. Oh, and WWEDX3, I think you're just butthurt because you can't jump and strafe and run everywhere. Your KDR goes down, less nukes, etc.
    PEOPLE THIS IS WHAT MAKES WAR A CHALLENGE AND MAKES IT INTERESTING SO THAT LOWER LEVELS HAVE A CHANCE.
    (edit: WWEDX3 You're also being biased because the poll is basically tied and there are plenty of people who love the recoil.)
     
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  10. JaydenChadd

    JaydenChadd Former SMod / Community Manager

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    Putty is currently tweaking recoil, this should hopefully be fixed soon Mafia. :wink:
     
  11. Emperor_Creeper

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    I would love to see the Diss get the "treatment" .......would make for some interesting games.
     
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  12. HaThisNamesTaken

    HaThisNamesTaken Well-Known Member

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    -New way to solve some recoil problems
    - when shifting, there is no recoil on all 3 burst guns, and you can still jump and shift to shoot but less time to shoot
    - or just remove recoil from some guns, (lamenation) it's already trash, barley used by anyone. The recoil makes it worse
     
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  13. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    No need to hate on Brawler for so something 99% of the people don't do.
    Jesus Christ, it's really the fault of the anti-cheating plugin.
    Like, your whole statement was wrong.
    Trickshotting really isn't a decent part of McWar, and it still is possible to trickshot.
    I'm pretty sure they'll find a way to counter it, but for now just don't do trickshots.
    And it wasn't really even Brawler's idea in the first place.
    Also, you are basically the last person I'd ever think complained about recoil, most of your time playing WAS with recoil I bet, and teleported you back always, even with the old recoil.
    I CAN FEEL THE DISAGREES COMING
     
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  14. MafiaFerret

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    The bugs are the main part of the "problem", it makes the game crashy, doesn't allow you to jump and limit airshots..... Those are pretty much bugs, not features. Of course brawler didn't make the recoil with the purpose to screw up trickshots and all, but it happened as a consequence.

    It's perfectly fine if it's like this now, I'm not in a big hurry, but I'd like it to change soon. Hopefully the recoil is fixed, changed, untill it gets better, more neutral. I'm trying to say that we should work on achieving an impartial point. We can't really make everyone happy, but let's try to get in the right deal, the way it is now, it can't stay. I see you want the game more realistic, but we don't want our game screwed up. For now, I think our side should be favored, because this feature that a lot liked, screwed up with a lot of things, you can't give us all that bad features just because of one good feature.

    Between, Brawler, I know recoil always existed, but automatics didn't have it, which was one of the features of guns like skullcrusher and why I'd rather use it in some maps and use guns like msr in other maps, of course I got used to non-recoil, but it would be fine to have it on snipers and shotguns. Second thing is that, the recoil back then didn't use to bug me back to where I was when I jumpshotted, but now it does, this is a big problem to the ones who like to do airshots, whereas the thing that makes jumping and shooting very crashy is a big problem to the ones who like to use agility in their favor.

    It's ok to have recoil, just don't take away from us what we like, I'm talking about agility and airshots.

    I'm not hating on brawler, it's because me and him were in a discussion and the video was meant to go for him. I can even change the name I think, but Im not hating on him, it was about our discussion.

    No, I didn't have this bug when we had the old recoil, for some reason, but now, I have. As I already said, it's ok to have it like this for now, but I don't want it to remain unfixed, plus I didn't see any move towards fixing it already, so I'm just fighting to make sure they will fix it one day and don't make this issue a forgotten thing, hence, they will only fix it after 7 months or so. But right now I'm not in such a big hurry.

    And if trickshotting is not a big thing for you, for me it is, airshotting in general. McBrawl even had a top 10 about trickshots, a hell bunch of people submitted trickshots to take part in it.

    Well RLH, for some reasons this "lag" didn't happened to me before, but now, exactly when this new recoil came, it does. Recoil is meant to be a small detail to make the game more realistic, not a big thing that eventually screws up other parts of the game.
     
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  15. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    Let me say one thing.
    If there was no recoil bug, if it was never removed, if we never had a surge of players strafing, would anyone care? If nobody learned anything different, would we want no recoil at all? My point is that McWar would be better off if we just kept recoil the whole time, since nobody would know any different.
    Also, you have to agree, the SkullCrusher (and other automatics) was extremely overused.
    It needed a nerf.
    Oh, and recoil wasn't supposed to be small.
    It was supposed to change the way you played.
     
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  16. MafiaFerret

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    Changing too much makes a lot of things worse. The recoil was meant to be a detail that changed your game, but now it didn't change our game, it screwed it, made it bad, made it buggy.
     
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  17. tallscot

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    I've seen a lot of people in the comments say that they don't like the recoil only because it makes spamming an OP weapon more difficult then it usually is.

    That's one of the points of adding the recoil....

    And mafia, I don't know why that jump shot bug is happening to you, it's not happening to me at all.
     
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  18. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    I only see one bug, and that is the jumpshot bug.
     
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  19. DreadlordsCousin

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    When I do a jumpshot I don't have any glitch..... I don't know what is happening with you mafia...
     
  20. MafiaFerret

    MafiaFerret Well-Known Member

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    Well, something is happening, because I had absolutaly no bugs, but the day they added recoil, I started having. Also, Queen tried and had bugs aswell if I remember well.
     
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