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Discussion in 'Ideas' started by starbo1034, Nov 11, 2014.

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Is this a good idea?

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  1. starbo1034

    starbo1034 Well-Known Member

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    Lately when I went on war the teams were very unbalanced because on the enemy team there were
    • 1 level 100+ player
    • 6 level 60+ players
    • 4 level 30+ plaryers
    • 12 level 1-29 players
    most were in the same clan
    on my team there was
    • Me (the only level 60+ player)
    • 2 level 30+ players
    • and around 20 level 1-29 players
    Long story short we got nuked 4 times and EMPed 10 times
    I could have stopped 3 (I did stop 6 nukes) of the nukes with my iso but they were wearing super armor so I got skullied before I could shoot them again.
    The point is: balance the teams out based on levels.
    here is what i think it should be like (based on the players in the game I was in) so here are the people who were on the server:
    1 level 100+
    7 level 60+ players
    level 60-70: 2
    Level 71-80: 4
    Level 81-90: 1

    6 level 30+
    Level 30-40: 2
    Level 41-50: 3
    Level 51-59: 1

    9 level 1-12 players (approximately)
    14 level 13-24 players (approximately)
    9 level 25-29 players (approximately)

    Using my idea the teams would have been more like this: (BTW I was on red on launch)
    BLUE TEAM:
    1 level 100+ player
    2 level 71-80 players
    1 level 60-70 player
    2 level 41-50 players
    1 level 30-40 player
    5 level 25-29 players
    7 level 13-24 players
    4 level 1-12 players

    RED TEAM:
    1 level 81-90 player
    2 level 71-80 players
    1 level 60-70 player
    1 level 51-59 player
    1 level 41-50 player
    1 level 30-40 player
    4 level 25-29 players
    7 level 13-24 players
    4 level 1-12 players

    If you ask me this is a very good style because the teams are more fairly balanced in terms of

    • equal number of similar leveled, skilled, and experienced players
    • Teams will have a similar amount of prestige players which means in some cases is might be harder to nuke because there may be more skilled players on the other team
    now the clans
    lets say there are 10 level 30-40 players and 4 level 60-70 players on a server. 2 of the level 60-70 players and 5 of the level 30-40 players are in HACK and the others are not. The HACK members are on the same team.
    Now 3 HACK players (level 60-70) join the server so there are now 7 level 60-70 players on, 5 are in HACK.
    The server splits it so 2 HACK members join the team with the 2 non-HACK members to form a team of 4, the 3 other HACK members are on the other team.
     
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  2. BrawlerAce

    BrawlerAce Well-Known Member

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    One issue is that clans are supposed to be on the same team. If they aren't, there's no point in having a clan other than the prefix.
     
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  3. starbo1034

    starbo1034 Well-Known Member

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    the system will try to put clan members on the same team while keeping it fair at the same time, it will put clan members on the other team if the teams start to get unbalanced
     
    #3 starbo1034, Nov 11, 2014
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  4. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    Seems very complicated to me and there is also the problem that clan members are always in the same team.
    In some games teams might be unbalanced (especially when you are on the home server of a good clan), but in the total outcome it will probably be balanced. Maybe in the next round YOUR team has all the good players and you get a easy nuke.
     
  5. starbo1034

    starbo1034 Well-Known Member

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    There were about 45 people on the server
    I was on red team and yea I did go 22-9
    blue nuked us 4 times and launched 10 EMPs (blue color is blue team red color is red)
    1 level 100+ on blue

    level 60-70: 2 people, 1 on red, 1 on blue
    Level 71-80: 4 people all on blue
    Level 81-90: 1 person on blue


    Level 30-40: 2 people all on red
    Level 41-50: 3 people all on blue
    Level 51-59: 1 person on blue

    9 level 1-12 players: 7 on red 2 on blue
    14 level 13-24 players 5 on red 9 on blue
    9 level 25-29 players 4 on red 5 on blue
    the next 2 TDM and CTF games were exactly the same and
     
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    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    That was ONE round, I said that in ALL rounds together that you play the teams will be balanced.
     
  7. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    What if you have 21 level 100+ player and like 69 level 1+ players?
    How would you balance that out?
     
  8. starbo1034

    starbo1034 Well-Known Member

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    that was 1 round but the next 2 round I played after that were just as bad. I will send you the results of the CTF game in a PM.
    split the 100+ players in half and split the others in half based on levels
     
  9. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    How do you split 21 in two parts without having the 10.5?
     
  10. starbo1034

    starbo1034 Well-Known Member

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    Lowest level 100+ player will be on the team with the least number of low level players
     
  11. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    What if they are in a clan?
     
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    I do not think there is any kind of balanced system for teams, the only thing that changes is you being with your clan members in the same team
     
  14. starbo1034

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    • If they are in a clan it will put as many members on one team until it is unbalanced. Then the remainders will be on the other team. The same applies to all the other categories:
    CATEGORIES:
    • Levels 1-10
    • Levels 11-20
    • Levels 21-30
    • Levels 31-40
    • Levels 41-50
    • Levels 51-60
    • Levels 61-70
    • Levels 71-80
    • Levels 81-90
    • Levels 91-99
    • Level 100+
    So let's say there are 14 level 1-10 players on a server, 8 of them are in a clan, the system will put 7 of them on one team and the 1 remaining clan member on the other team
    Now there are 14 level 11-20 players on a server, 8 of them are in a clan, the system will put 7 of them on one team and the 1 remaining clan member on the other team

    So on and so on for all catagories
     
    #14 starbo1034, Nov 11, 2014
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  15. Emas

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    well if this get added,Clans will be useless
     
  16. starbo1034

    starbo1034 Well-Known Member

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    No
     

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  17. Emas

    Emas Well-Known Member

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    If there like 20 FTWs on
    and 2 FLUXers only how?
    FTW is better <3
     
  18. starbo1034

    starbo1034 Well-Known Member

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    FTW is not on here it's
    Volt HACK FLUX and Java
     
  19. jordanewert

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    I kind of agree that the clans at times are OP but they are a clan. They are what makes a team a team. If you take away the clans then how can anyone team? Its a great way to show your skills. Granted You can make clans at 31+ but that doesn't stop you from joining a clan that accepts 20+ or 10+? I think that clans at like lvl 20 should be able to be created. That way the lower ranked people could get on a team with people close to them and then get more skilled by playing on their teams. Create friendships and also have a good time wining. That would be great on some of the more un populated servers such as (no offense) 10. or like 7.? Their are about 4-5 30+ on at a time averagely. I think what you are wanting is to be able to have clans made at 20 and some clans should really lower their needs. Thank you
     
  20. EternalParty7

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    It would take some complex coding to do what you're asking. Also the reason the other team may be OP was because they were all in one clan with high leveled players. Nothing you can do about that.
     
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