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M. Brown No Indictment

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  1. Brutal_X

    Brutal_X Well-Known Member

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    Post thoughts here. This ordeal took place around an hour away from my house so I get a lot of news coverage on it. What are you thoughts about the situation? Have at it.
     
  2. Javed

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    Whether or not it was in self defense or not, as far as I've heard, there was no evidence pointing to the fact that it was a race-based shooting. The fact that the community assumes it was a hate crime is as much a perpetuation of racism as the shooting itself, assuming it WAS race-biased.

    I think they should let the court system take its course rather than march through the streets demanding "justice" for something that they assume is the case.

    The nation-wide outrage at the "racism" and "injustice" of the crime is more a feeling of mob mentality than a conclusion based on evidence. Just because the victim is black and the shooter is white, that makes it a national incident; you don't see anyone having a problem with black cops shooting white people.
     
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    Though his death was tragic, it could've all been avoided if he simply didn't steal, let alone run away from a police officer.
     
  4. Brutal_X

    Brutal_X Well-Known Member

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    Lmfao. It's hilarious seeing some of the opinions these idiots on the news have. They claim all of the jurors and the prosecutor are racist bigots because they can't stand the fact that some thug kid was shot.

    It's honestly embarrassing to see the kinds of people who are allowed to be interviewed on the news. It's honestly pathetic to see people of ANY color act like this.
     
  5. C9_Mango

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    I'm sorry, but this simply is not true.

    Want 3 cases of a white cop shooting a black male to death?

    Treyvon Martin
    Michael Brown
    Tamir Rice (A 12 year old, 12 YEAR OLD, shot to death recently from 10 feet away)

    When was the last time a black cop shot a while male and got away with it? Exactly.

    And also, why did the cop not pull out a taser, or pepper spray? Why the heck did he even shoot him? He could've closed the window, then had a legitimate excuse to shoot him if the window was broken. The shooting was SO not necessary, and I believe was caused by race. If this were a black cop shooting a white man, he'd be sent to court immediately. This guy wasn't even charged.
    Since when does stealing a pack of cigarettes and running freaking constitute being shot 12 times and THEN left out on the street for 4 and a half hours before he was finally taken away?
     
  6. Brutal_X

    Brutal_X Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that you want to point fingers and bring up ratios of white cops vs black civilian males. You want to know why you never hear about white males shot by black officers? It is not only because it does not happen nearly as often, but because it does not get the news coverage that a white cop vs black teen male would. You bring up several famous cases that have gotten quite a bit of news coverage but you lack to find any others because it does not happen as often as it is believed to be.

    As for the shooting, Michael Brown was 6'4, and 292 pounds of pure bull. The officer was likely scared out of his mind (as you would be also) when he saw this said bull charging towards him. Some pepper spray or a taser might have been a viable option if Mr.Brown had not reacted violently to officer Wilson. Because of his violent reaction (with getting into a melee with officer Wilson in the patrol car and this has been proven with forensic evidence) the only option that could subdue Mr.Brown was a firearm. It's unfortunate for any human being to lose their life, but in some cases people get their just deserts.

    I would suggest reviewing your opinion on the topic and perhaps investigating more into said topic. It's people like you who instigate the violence that happens in Ferguson daily because you try to find some way to justify the crimes committed day to day. I don't care if you are white, black, purple, or green, the actions taken by officer Wilson were completely justifiable due to his life being at risk. I honestly can't believe people actually stick up for some thug who wouldn't have meant a lick to society anyway.
     
  7. C9_Mango

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    Holy crap how more racist can you get? "Pure Bull" "Thug" "Wouldn't have meant a lick to society anyway" Honestly what is wrong with you? Also, you tell me that I should review my case, when you have 0 evidence to prove that he was charged at, or that there was a Melee in the car. Believe me, I watched the entire case. Not once did any evidence come forth that he struck the officer, or that he charged him- these are merely various reports that have no backbone to them. As of now, I refuse to continue this conversation due to the racism you just exhibited in that last post. Good day sir. Also, what evidence do you have of such a Melee? All that was found was blood on the inside and around the car. No wounds to the officer. In addition, if you believe the first option when approached is to draw a lethal weapon, you better back your argument up a notch or three.
     
  8. Brutal_X

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    I exhibited no racism. I used the word "bull" as an analogy for his size, not because of his color or actions. I say "Thug", because he strong arm robbed Swisher Sweet cigars, which are normally used for marijuana. To say that 0 evidence was there to prove that he reacted in said manners is again you being extremely ignorant. The jury was presented with a TON of evidence, from blood inside the card, to blood on officer Wilson BELONGING TO MICHAEL BROWN.

    I understand that it's easy to just claim I am a racist bigot just as many people on the news do. Please do reply with a somewhat intelligent response that doesn't include calling me a "racist".
     
  9. Javed

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    I don't think you understood what I was saying
    I said that the reaction to the shooting is a perpetuation of racism in itself.
    Your argument is flawed here by your own personal bias
    Why do you assume "pure bull" and "thug" were used because Michael Brown was black?
    Because you have preconceived notions about what we are saying, and are unable to fully understand it due to them.

    Your argument strategies are plausible deniability, and attempting to claim ethos by calling Brutal_X "racist" are only more manifestations of your bias.
     
  10. C9_Mango

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    You only prove my point more. What the heck do you think happens when you get shot? Blood sprays everywhere. However, you state only this blood belongs to Michael Brown, so doesn't that in itself prove your own idea that this was a "Melee" wrong? Shouldn't there be blood from both sides if it was a fight? Guess why you don't find any blood of the officers? Because Michael Brown was shot prior to any assault on the killer. Therefore, you just used your own evidence not only to prove my point correct, but to prove yours wrong.
    If not race, then what lead him to use that terminology? I cannot remember the last time a white person was called a bull...

    Anyways, racist or not, that was extremely rude on his part, especially the not meaning anything. If he wishes for me to actually consider his POV legitimate, he needs to learn some respect for others.

    Anyways, I'm off to bed. I don't expect to reply to this anytime soon.
     
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    Regardless what side you are on, there is no sufficient evidence to support either side. I don't remember where I read this nor completely what the comment said, but it basically stated that due to social media and the pace of the spread that people who didn't even knew what the hell happened already had strong opinions in this subject. It's easier to support what everyone says rather than being quiet.

    I personally do not have a side because I do not know what truly happened, and I feel these protests are much more of let's see how far we can go rather than let's see how far we can impact.

    Not white.
     
  12. Javed

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    What does a bull do?
    Are they raging beasts easily identified by their dark brown color?
    No.
    They charge at things.
    One the allegations against Brown was that he charged towards Wilson.
    You continue to fail to see this from a non-biased point of view.
    I don't have much to say here besides this:

    Sometimes the facts aren't friendly
    But just because they offend you doesn't mean you can ignore them
    Respect for others is not a necessity of correctness.
     
  13. Brutal_X

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    If I wanted to use racist terms to talk about the subject, I would've done it. "Bull" is not whatsoever a term that has EVER been used in derogatory fashion against blacks.

    As for Mr.Brown being inside of Wilson's car, I'm sure he was just in there to shake his hand? It's literally astonishing that one would be so ignorant to actually believe a thief later found by an officer was inside of a patrol car for a friendly altercation.
     
  14. BrawlerAce

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    All I got is that everyone's protesting, there was a foiled bomb plot, and there's violence. :v
    As Cbsusd said:
    Being quick to assumptions isn't always a bad thing, but in this case it's a bad thing.
     
  15. randomcitizen1

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    This thread is such a flame war waiting to happen. Just warning you guys, anything said in defense of the cop will probably be taken as racist in some way. Expect to be called racist if you think the cop was in the right. :/
     
  16. _PublicEnemy_

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    Ye this is such a peaceful protest EVERYTHING IS ON FIRE, looters, armed protesters, cops missing. XD.
    Cop was right he got his eye socket broken and was attacked in his car so yeah he is justified.
     
  17. Brutal_X

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    All the complaining of militarized police, it's hilarious.
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    @LukenDan you obviously do not know the basic protocols of police officers. If the suspect shows any signs of intent to harm, and refuses to cooperate with authorities, then no risks are taken. Pepper sprays and tazers are much too risky, since an average person can close the gape between them and the police officer before the officer can do anything. It's nothing to do with racism, but the insurance of the safety of others. @Brutal_X made a point about Brown being a "bull". That is obviously a metaphor. Not literal. Go back to elementary school, will you? Have you ever been charged at by a football player? It is the scariest s**t I have ever seen. Pepper spray or a tazer won't save you there. In fact, there is nothing wrong with a black officer shooting a white man. Today's government is not based off of racism as it did decades ago. Also, notice how he was stealing $48 USD worth of cigarettes, and blatantly refused to obey orders to stop, even assaulting an officer, a major act of felony. The shooting was obviously an act of self defense. There's no need for "blood for blood" equality bullcrap. I don't know, man, but right now you just sound extremely ignorant. It pisses me off how everyone assumes our cops are "racist" for shooting black people. It's their job to persecute criminals, and this suspect just happened to be black. It's just how it is. Now go home and rethink about all the nonsensical stuff you just said.
     
  20. _PublicEnemy_

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    LA has stuff on fire now XD Don't know about the other cities where riots have broken out too yet.
    EDIT. Police officer shot. Ferguson is burning to the ground.. Fireman cant do anything because of all the gunshots.... Nice job protesters at burning down your own town...
     
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