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Crossbow nerf, easier parkour, etc.

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by MeetTerry, Jan 5, 2015.

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Should crossbow only be shot when fully pulled back/not kill surrounding people with its explosion?

  1. Yes, because crossbow spam is cheap and annoying.

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  2. No, because I enjoy crossbow spam.

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  1. MeetTerry

    MeetTerry Member

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    Hi there.

    If you've played on the servers, you know how bad the crossbow spam gets. It's just cheap shots that help the donators get a bunch of easy kills in maps like 2fort.

    My idea for a crossbow nerf:
    • Only be allow to shoot the crossbow when it is fully pulled back.
    • Alternatively, make the crossbow's explosion not kill anyone else except the target/victim.
    Let's be honest here: the only people who are going to oppose this are the people who have the crossbow and enjoy getting easy, cheap kills.

    Additionally, the parkour in the waiting area for the game to start needs to be made easier. Almost everyone fails at the part where you have to jump from the ice. It's extremely annoying when you have a bunch of people on the same spot, missing the same spot, and just causing a bunch of traffic on the parkour. Not only that, MCBrawl doesn't even offer the minigun prize anymore, so what's the point of an extremely difficult parkour?

    Nobody does the parkour because we pretty much fail at the same spots.

    My idea for a parkour:
    • Make it easier. Make it so that a relatively skilled person at Minecraft parkour can get to the top within 40-70 seconds.
    TL;DR: Nerf the crossbow so its explosion doesn't kill people around the target or make it so that it can only be shot when fully pulled back. Also, make an easier parkour so you won't have a bunch of kids doing the same thing over and over again.
     
    #1 MeetTerry, Jan 5, 2015
  2. JaydenChadd

    JaydenChadd Former SMod / Community Manager

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    #2 JaydenChadd, Jan 5, 2015
  3. SquishFish

    SquishFish Well-Known Member

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    SO will the community ever learn that these are donor guns there not suppossed to be regular they have to have a upside that is balanced. With this I see this as a iso with gravity.
     
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    #3 SquishFish, Jan 5, 2015
  4. HaThisNamesTaken

    HaThisNamesTaken Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with Crossbow being OP. You have to load the cross bow, thus not good for close range battles. Explosions sometimes don't kill players as they may be on a half slab as well. The Cross bow is very low on ammo, making you buy the perk scavenger making it a needy $8.

    My Cbow buff:
    Make it so you can have the crossbow locked and ready, by fully charging it. You can then sprint and when someone suddenly appears, you just have to click rather than loading it up wasting time.
     
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    #4 HaThisNamesTaken, Jan 5, 2015
  5. MeetTerry

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    Oh lmao.
    Crossbow would still be great from afar if you had to fully pull it back. In fact, I'm fine if its explosion kills surrounding people as long as you have to pull it back. At least then, one team can't completely spawn trap the other team in certain maps.
    I would also be fine if the explosion was removed, and crossbow could be "spammed", but dealing damage to only one person at a time.

    The crossbow having both abilities makes it a way for donators to get a bunch of easy, cheap kills that ruin the fun. I've had too many instances where 5-6 donators on one team were able to continue to crossbow spam into my team's spawn, making it impossible to leave.
     
    #5 MeetTerry, Jan 5, 2015
  6. Chopo

    Chopo Well-Known Member

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    I personally don't like your ideas, no offense. :c

    The crossbow isn't really that overpowered, it's only utilized in small maps. Most of the mc-war maps are regular sized/big, so I don't see the crossbow being a major problem. Furthermore; if the crossbow were to be nerfed with your idea, it would basically become a regular bow (with the exploding aspect, of course). I'm pretty sure that most players that purchased the crossbow would want a refund because of how badly their donor item was nerfed.

    As for your parkour idea, I don't really see it happening. The parkour at spawn is just there so players aren't bored while they're waiting for the match to end/start. It's not a major part of the actual game, so I feel like if this was taken into consideration, it would be at the back of the admins' priority list.
     
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    #6 Chopo, Jan 5, 2015
  7. MeetTerry

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    The idea of donations is to donate to the server so that it can continue to exist. The guns/perks that come with it acts simply as a "thank you" item.

    The crossbow is overpowered in the maps that are small. Yes, there aren't many of them, but letting these maps be opportunities to get 100+ cheap kills is annoying.

    Just because there aren't that many small maps does not mean that crossbow users should be able to get an insane advantage in those maps.

    By getting rid of at least one of the aforementioned aspects of the crossbow would make it much more fair.

    The only reason why donators continue to want an un-nerfed crossbow is because they know they can get easy kills with it. There's no other reason for it.
     
    #7 MeetTerry, Jan 5, 2015
  8. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    Why can't we just make the crossbow similar to the one in CoD? :/
     
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    #8 F1r3tar, Jan 5, 2015
  9. Kurma

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    If crossbow had to be fully pulled back to kill, no one would buy it

    Idk about that it could be way too over powered (Skully + cbow would be OP)
     
    #9 Kurma, Jan 6, 2015
  10. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    You can't even equip two primaries at once. Maybe you should research the weapon before making assumptions. Does this look op? :V

     
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  11. HeEatsFood

    HeEatsFood Well-Known Member

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    Well having the cbow's explosion removed would be weird b/c in COD BO2 the crossbow bolt explodes

    Hell naw
     
    #11 HeEatsFood, Jan 6, 2015
  12. ObamaTheReptile

    ObamaTheReptile Well-Known Member

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    2 things:
    1. I never use cbow (I have it, but I ALMOST never use it.) and I STILL think it's balanced as it is. It';s a bow, for god's sake, and you have a GUN. Guns > bows. If it had to be fully pulled back to shoot like the bow in the hub, it'd be basically an ISO with drop, like @bigmama15 stated.
    2. As a donor gun, it's supposed to be different and interesting and, yes, better than any other gun.
    As for the parkour, that's what /war l is for.
     
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    #12 ObamaTheReptile, Jan 6, 2015
  13. Choci

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    I don't get it.
    1. It would become an Isolator with drop and explosions. How's that a bad thing?
    2. Donator guns/weapons are supposed to be fun guns. Nerfing the crossbow seems reasonable to me.
     
    #13 Choci, Jan 6, 2015
  14. ObamaTheReptile

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    Indeed it would have explosions, but he stated that the explosion would only affect the person who was hit with the crossbow.
    The second point is true enough, can't argue with that. I just think not THIS nerf.
     
    #14 ObamaTheReptile, Jan 6, 2015
  15. ImSqueegee

    ImSqueegee Active Member

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    @MeetTerry honestly, if they nerfed it THAT much, it would be SOO bad..... It would be useless... -_-
     
    #15 ImSqueegee, Jan 6, 2015
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    Its because its cod advanced warfare advanced warfare was a poorly made game (it was made so the creators could get some money).
     
    #16 stork12345678, Jan 6, 2015
  17. MeetTerry

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    My proposed nerf wouldn't be a bad thing.

    Bows are still fun to use. Bows are NEVER used for close combat in the games. They're always used from a safe distance.

    If you prevent the crossbow spam by making it only work by being fully pulled back, people can't spam it.

    OR

    If the crossbow can still be spammed, but only hurt a person if it actually touches the target. Donators have found that they do not even have to aim that much with using the crossbow because the explosion damage does the work for them.

    If you crossbow spam with the Scavenger perk, you'll easily get over 100 arrows for neverending spam. Stopt rynig to defend the crossbow.
     
    #17 MeetTerry, Jan 6, 2015
  18. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Everything kept the way it was except for @Endercow_3's idea basically. The parkour is suppose to be challenging and if you have enough practice you can pass it like I did :V. Also the parkour is just to pass time, some people may take it serious but not many.
     
    #18 MrWaffleman, Jan 6, 2015
  19. MeetTerry

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    The problem I said that was with the current parkour is that the hard parts are right in the beginning of the course.

    The parkour should be like the one on its HG Survival with guns. That one is easier, and people are not falling off the same area over and over again. The one in the War servers has people falling off the same place (the ice). If the ice part was somewhere near the end, that would be fine, but whoever designed the thing put it right near the beginning of the course.

    And I understand that you really enjoy getting cheap, easy kills, but you're ruining the fun for several people, when you know you go to strategic areas in certain maps, and continue to crossbow spam.
     
    #19 MeetTerry, Jan 6, 2015
  20. Aboves

    Aboves meh

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    But how will we decipher it is hacking? Even if it does the same thing hackers should be banned regardless.
     
    #20 Aboves, Jan 6, 2015
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