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Too many hackusations!

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by Javed, Oct 4, 2013.

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  1. Javed

    Javed Well-Known Member

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    I understand the need that players have to call someone out if they hack, but with some people it gets a bit out of hand. First off, I would like to set some things straight about hacks. Minecraft is a server based game. This means that all data and programming is stored server side. LAN worlds are client based servers, so hacking is much more possible. Because all of the code and programming server side, all data values and default minecraft settings are stored here.

    Server side mods include godmode, flyhack, reach hacks, and noclip. They require a response from the server in order to work. Nocheat detects the abnormal information packets they send out, and blocks the illegal activity. There is no way around nocheat, (save breaking into the host and recoding the plugin to make an exception) unless a glitch is discovered that nocheat has not yet patched.

    Client side mods include fullbright, wallhack, radar, xray, freecam, etc. They abuse the information that the client receives from the server and display it in unfair ways. This means that the only hacks nocheat is unable to prevent are ones that change your render settings. They are undetectable, and the only way to find them is if you notice strange behavior in a player. Although if you are crouching behind a one block long wall, they will probably see you anyways.

    The goal of this thread is to better inform the greater community on the nature and abilities of hackers. It does not matter how good the hacker is; there is no way to hack 1000 hearts via a minecraft client. I am posting this because I see way too many players making false hackusations. I try to give them the short version of why it was not a hack, but they do not listen. There are people who make hackusations literally ever minute *ahem @killahminer ahem* and It would be great if this could be considered spam. I am here to educate the minecraft community, and hopefully make it a better informed, more intelligent group of people who actually know their hackusations when they make them.

    EDIT: Xray can be blocked, although it is difficult.
     
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  2. Scoat2

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    thank you for making the distinction.
     
  3. Sir_Blockalots

    Sir_Blockalots Well-Known Member

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    killahminer. How on earth does he never learn?
     
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  4. MafiaFerret

    MafiaFerret Well-Known Member

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    ppl say: HACK HACK HACK because they dont actualy know what is a hack....
    and the mod distinction is truth too

    anyway there are a lot of hacks indeed. if you know how, u can even change ur mc code so it will do some "fancy" stuff, pretty much the same thing as a hack, or even better sometimes
     
  5. Javed

    Javed Well-Known Member

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    Yes but pretty much nothing you can do (save brute forcing the server host and getting into the actual server files) will be able to health hack, or damage hack, or anything like that.
     
  6. Mokolee

    Mokolee Well-Known Member

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    I love it when noobies spam stupid things to me. I screenshoot them and then publish it on the forums.
     
  7. Javed

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    It's a compliment when they say it once, but when they say things like godmode, I try to explain it to them and they don't understand. And then beyond that there are people like killahminer who hackuse people literally every 70 seconds. Sir_Blockalots knows what I'm talking about.
     
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    I got called a hacker because I got a lucky shot on someone, their expression was, "SNAIL YOU HACKER!" Then everyone in the chat said, "LOL"
     
  9. Javed

    Javed Well-Known Member

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    Yes, well everyone gets accused of hacking at some point, but that isn't the objective of this thread. This is to further educate the greater community of the forums on the finer points of what can and cannot be done with a hacked client.
     
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    Snail_5_ Switched Accounts "Phobia"

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    True dat! Can we get back on topic people? (Including me... XD )
     
  11. Darkchaosknight

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    Interesting points but I don't agree with more intelligent people. People can be new to mc-war and just not know how to play. Whats worse is when a long time player teaches the novice these exploit etc.
    Conclusion: I hope that people who did read this thread will now understand the difference between exploits, mods, and illegal hacks. Thank you Cbsusd for writing it as it was needed to be said.
     
  12. booflame

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    Every one in some point or another playing mc-war will be called a hacker. It is just a natural state people refer to when they get bested. In their minds when you best them they think that what you are doing unattainable, unfathomable, and has to be something illegal.
    Yes some people just call others a hacker because their mad. Hey look at me I had at least five threads posted saying I hack, all because I can learn and adapt to change my skill to be the best I can.
    Cbsusd you bring up some very important facts good job.
     
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    I 100% agree!
     
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    I saw killahminer today for the first time and he was saying some pretty bad stuff and being a smart ass
     
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    It was really funny last night because there were 2 level 31+ players saying that I hacked
     
  16. BrawlerAce

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    Someone accused me of hacking because I jumped and shot them with an Isolator.
    Another person accused me of hacking because I snuck up behind him and shot him to death.
    Yet another person accused me of hacking because I'm in the HACK clan.

    Seems legit.
     
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    This is exactly what I'm talking about. I made this thread for the good of those people.
     
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    Good that you took the time to write this down, and I'll add one thing to the discussion. X-ray can be blocked, although it is rather difficult. I'll explain how:

    First, you need a very good server computer, as it'll be doing a lot of calculations

    Then, just create a plugin that sends false data to the client, only updating it when a block is broken aka the player is supposed to see it.
     
  20. Javed

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    Now that you mention it, I have seen those before.
     
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