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Discussion in 'Survival Games w/ Guns' started by chickenputty, Feb 15, 2015.

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  1. chickenputty

    chickenputty License & registration?

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    Wanting to know some things regarding guns. Feel free to answer any, or all, of the questions below.
    Feel free to add anything else on your mind.

    Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.

    What guns are overpowered right now?

    What guns are trash right now?

    What gun type would you like to see more of?

    What is a specific gun that you would want to see?

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?​

    Thanks.
     
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  2. Cappuccino

    Cappuccino Well-Known Member

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    I haven't played FPSHG as much as other gamemodes, but here's what I can answer from my knowledge of the gamemode.

    What guns are overpowered right now?
    Minigun because it is a rapid-fire gun, medium damage, and it doesn't ever have to reload.

    What gun type would you like to see more of?
    I think that most guns are balanced, but I'd like to see small amounts of ammo spawning with the gun.
    Ex: A chest will spawn Barret50cal + 4<x sniper ammo

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?
    I think that the gun diversity is fine.
     
  3. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.
    I think the current gun system with kits is balanced enough, though I think you should be able to create your own kit or upgrade (improve+add items+effects) to the current kits.

    What guns are overpowered right now?
    As for now, I find minigun being very powerful, along with the vast majority of LMGs as of whole. I think their time-to-kill as very fast.

    What guns are trash right now?
    RPG is useless due to us (players) being able to dodge it. This could be slightly altered by increasing the flyspeed of the projectile.

    What gun type would you like to see more of?
    Hybrid weaponry, like Marksman rifles, that would be like high-mobility sniper rifles (as seen in Call of Duty: Ghosts).

    What is a specific gun that you would want to see?
    I'd love to see IMR or a unique weapon that is like the sticky bomb launcher/Pipe bomb launcher from TF2.

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?
    It is diverse, but I think it would be really cool if weapons that were from higher tier had more downsides, rendering lower tier weaponry useless when competing against something like an AK47+Barrett combo,​
     
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  4. Logic_Prototype

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    i'm sorry I've never played FPShg so i'm not sure, sorry putty
     
  5. Minigun

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    Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.
    No.

    What guns are overpowered right now?
    Minigun, sadly. A slight nerd might help.

    What guns are trash right now?
    AA12 and bow. I barely ever see anyone killed by these.

    What gun type would you like to see more of?
    Sniper rifles.

    What is a specific gun that you would want to see?
    Disassembler? Maybe.

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?
    It's decent, but an idea might be to have the option to create your own class.


    But, I'll sacrifice anything to keep the servers compatible with 1.7. I just don't see a reason why it would need to be updated.

    -Mini
     
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  6. King_Daan

    King_Daan Well-Known Member

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    This is great!
    As FpsHG Moderator I have a lot of experience with the game and I feel responsible to answer on this thread.
    But first I'm going to response to the answers that are already given, and give my own opinion about them.

    Cappuccino:
    I haven't played FPSHG as much as other gamemodes, but here's what I can answer from my knowledge of the gamemode.

    What guns are overpowered right now?
    Minigun because it is a rapid-fire gun, medium damage, and it doesn't ever have to reload.

    Response: It actually has a reload, after 250 rounds or so, should be removed though.
    The best option to nerf this gun is to decrease it's spawn rate, in my opinion.


    What gun type would you like to see more of?
    I think that most guns are balanced, but I'd like to see small amounts of ammo spawning with the gun.
    Ex: A chest will spawn Barret50cal + 4<x sniper ammo

    Response: I think this is fine as it is now, it makes the game more challenging when you don't always have ammo for all your guns. Besides that, ammo is not rare and spawns with a huge number.

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?
    I think that the gun diversity is fine.



    MattXzK:
    > Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.
    I think the current gun system with kits is balanced enough, though I think you should be able to create your own kit or upgrade (improve+add items+effects) to the current kits.

    Response: Creating your own kits would probably be to overpowered or not needed since there is a lot diversity of kits.

    > What guns are overpowered right now?
    As for now, I find minigun being very powerful, along with the vast majority of LMGs as of whole. I think their time-to-kill as very fast.

    Response: Decreasing the spawn rate of the Minigun would balance it, but the LMG's are fine in my opinion. Only the SAW and M240 are really good, and these are rare guns.

    > What guns are trash right now?
    RPG is useless due to us (players) being able to dodge it. This could be slightly altered by increasing the flyspeed of the projectile.

    Response: Agreed, the rocket (wither skull) needs a higher flying speed.

    > What gun type would you like to see more of?
    Hybrid weaponry, like Marksman rifles, that would be like high-mobility sniper rifles (as seen in Call of Duty: Ghosts).


    > What is a specific gun that you would want to see?
    I'd love to see IMR or a unique weapon that is like the sticky bomb launcher/Pipe bomb launcher from TF2.


    > Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?
    It is diverse, but I think it would be really cool if weapons that were from higher tier had more downsides, rendering lower tier weaponry useless when competing against something like an AK47+Barrett combo,

    Response: That's the point of tiers..

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    My answers:

    > Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.\
    In my opinion, no. Guns that you get from kits are lower tier guns, so removing some isn't needed.

    > What guns are overpowered right now?

    Minigun, but only due it's spawn rate. Needs a small decrease.

    > What guns are trash right now?

    - Cbow, very slow and weak. Needs a damage buff.
    - RPG, high damage but hard to hit an enemy. FpsHG is played on large maps, so in my opinion the flyspeed of the rocket (wither skull) needs to be increased.
    - Flamethrower, I would like to see a more realistic flamethrower that is very strong in close combat but doesn't have a long range.


    > What gun type would you like to see more of?

    I personally don't feel that we need more types of guns at the moment, this is more a thing for later.

    > What is a specific gun that you would want to see?

    Maybe a grenade launcher.
    - medium rage
    - projectiles explodes on impact
    - projectiles fly with an arc
    - slow reload
    - high damage
    - small clip size
    - high recoil


    > Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?

    It's fine in my opinion.
     
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  7. Mokolee

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    Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.
    Yes actually. I'd like to see something fun and fun as in I'd like to see TF2 referenced classes. Kinda like the Hunter kit with the Katniss reference, it would be nice to see Sniper or Soldier.

    What guns are overpowered right now?
    Tier III and IV LMGs as well as the Minigun. I would also say Tier IV Sniper and SMG but I say we should keep them as is.

    What guns are trash right now?
    Every pistol. A faster firing rate would be nice. RPG rocket could have a higher blast radius although I'm not sure what it actually is.

    What gun type would you like to see more of?
    Probably more "special" tiered weapons. Sentries possibly?

    What is a specific gun that you would want to see?
    A flare gun. Referencing any of the three from TF2.

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?
    It's actually is a wide field of weapons I will admit. 4 Tiers is good enough and specials make it a large variety of weapons to choose from.
     
  8. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    OP Weaponry
    >https://www.brawl.com/threads/34775

    Trash Guns
    >Some people might disagree with me, but the RPK needs a firerate buff. Its RPM is lower than the automatics, and it's an LMG.
    >Shorten the delay between bursts on the M16A4. Currently, the delay is so long that the gun is almost useless.
    >The crossbow is so weak compared to basically any gun; even most of the pistols are a better weapon. The crossbow should have exploding bolts that deal pretty high damage. I'm not saying make it op like in Mc-War, but it should be much stronger than it currently is.

    Gun types I'd like to see
    >I don't know how well this would work, but artillery guns sound like a creative idea that would make the server more unique from other hg servers w/ guns. They could be prespawned around the map in various locations and would remain stationary at all times. I'm assuming you know how artillery guns work since you're a senior or high school graduate.
    >Marksman rifles.

    Specific guns
    >MR-28 (G-28)
    >M14-EBR (M21-EBR)
    >IA-2
    >SVU
    Note: These were the four marksman rifles from CoD Ghosts, but they could work well in FpsHG with some balancing.

    Current Selection
    It's diverse, but I think it could even be more varied.
     
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  9. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    1. I think none. As for donor kits, maybe Pyro and RPG could be exclusive, but I don't recommend it at all.
    2. Dragunov- It deals more damage then the tier 3 sniper, while its tier 2. Mini gun- YOU HAVE to make it 1047283x more rare then it is right now. It's one of the most common things.
    3. Crossbows- A normal bow doesn't stand a chance against some of the OP guns. Shotguns- Still doesn't kill anything for me.
    4. None really.
    5. I don't understand, are you adding something? Or making something more common?
    6. I think there should be more guns, yes. Maybe some from MC-War.
     
  10. MemeGodKevin

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    You love tf2 too much

    My answers-
    Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.
    Nah

    What guns are overpowered right now?
    Mini for sure, and the tier 2+ lmgs are also really good (some may say the mg4 isn't to op but get caught up in a corner against this and your dead)

    What guns are trash right now?
    Pistols could be better, as well as bow and aa12

    What gun type would you like to see more of?
    Some more special weapons, would love to see some stuff that gives effects like speed, regen or jump boost

    What is a specific gun that you would want to see?
    A grenade launcher would be cool

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?
    Not really, just add in some quirky weapons and we are set
     
  11. Piky

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    With all these ideas about the guns, I would also like to talk about the FAMAS and M16A4 (and kit wise).
    When I look at those two kits, I think of how the FAMAS quite more over powered by the amount of damage a tier 1 Assault rifle can put out, and counting on the ammo it gets (32), compared to the M16A4 (16), the M16A4 just doesn't seem good, though the M16's damage is fine, the FAMAS could use a damage nerf. It takes around like 4-5 bullets to kill someone early game (maybe even less for full headshots) and can still do massive damage with only a few bullets late game. I feel as if the FAMAS is too good for such a low tier Assault Rifle. Maybe it can do 1 less heart for base damage and 1.5 less hearts for headshot/critical damage. The M16A14 could also use a slight ammo buff (6+ more ammo).
     
  12. Javed

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    more damage with the barret. as it is, it can't kill a full leather which is quite disappointing. A large collection of tomahawks fires faster and does more damage

    the minigun needs a major nerf, as it is better than all the other autos at pretty much any range. high damage and fire rate makes it basically an instant kill at close range. a significant decrease in damage would be good enough to balance it.
     
  13. 18kss

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    Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.
    Nah I don't think so. I like that everyone has an equal chance of winning right now.

    What guns are overpowered right now?

    Any LMG is really OP. Especially the minigun. All you have to do is spray.

    What guns are trash right now?

    Easily the crossbow. A bow vs a gun.... the gun easily wins.
    Some others in this thread have mentioned pistols. I use them all the time and they are perfectly fine. They really aren't meant to be super good.

    What gun type would you like to see more of?
    Maybe some special weapons.

    What is a specific gun that you would want to see?
    As mentioned above, a grenade launcher. It would be pretty cool!

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?
    I like it the way it is currently.
     
  14. Minigun

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    I feel like we need something to do with credits. Gaining all the kits is fairly easy. Possibly a donator kit (besides ninja) could be bought for 10k credits or so? These could be called "advanced kits."
     
  15. teawithchoco

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    The worst guns for me in my opinion are the crossbow & shotguns, I never used simply because there just plain bad and assault rifles or snipers are far better.
     
  16. YeezyLaces

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    Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests. No

    What guns are overpowered right now? P90.

    What guns are trash right now? Crossbow

    What gun type would you like to see more of? Smg and Ar's

    What is a specific gun that you would want to see? An94, and various smg's

    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive? No I feel that snipers are mostly the same excluding the Msr.
     
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  18. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Should some guns be kit specific? As in, you would not be able to find them in chests.
    You shouldn't be able to find Tomahawk's in chests, only if you purchase the kit.
    What guns are overpowered right now?
    The minigun could use a slight damage nerf.
    What guns are trash right now?
    Crossbow. No questions asked.
    What gun type would you like to see more of?
    Special weapons or new snipers.
    What is a specific gun that you would want to see?
    Perhaps a raygun?
    Is the current gun selection diverse enough? Is it boring and repetitive?
    Not at all.
     
  19. Zaid

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    I like how almost everything is right now.
    1) Nerf mini cuz that stuff is OP
    2) Why does the drugonav do more damage than the barret?
    3) MG4 WAY 2 OP.
    4) bow, Rlauncher, flame. Terrible
    5) SNOW BOUND IS A BS MAP Laggy AF And i can never find anyone even with compass
    Good Things
    1) I think chest spawn rate is good
    2) i like the variety of guns
    3) Team limit
    Thats all 4 now
     
  20. F1r3tar

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    Check the wiki. Barrett does more damage.
     
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