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The problems with MC-war.

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  1. Romkelolol

    Romkelolol Well-Known Member

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    NOTE: These are MY opinions. If you wanna let me know how you feel, than just make a comment about it.

    MC-war has bugged me a lot lately, And i mean A LOT. from the lag, to glitchers, to pretty much everything that you can see in the community today. I will be talking about the problems and I will give my opinion on some other things.

    Now where do we even BEGIN?

    Let us start with a thing that bugged me since i heard of it the first time:

    War motherf***in 2.0.

    Tell me:How long ago was it that we heard anything from it? about, like what, forever? And to anyone saying that they are working on it: I highly doubt it. Why do i think that? just look at the what has been shown as spoilers for 2.0 . all that we have heard when it comes to information about war 2.0 is that it will come 'soon' . 0 spoilers at all, no info about the coders working on it. only, one, word. SOON.

    You may ask: how is this a problem?

    Reason 1: We have been promised so many things in war 2.0 ranging from new guns to new perks and even new gamemodes. And yet, for as much as we have been promised, we have gotten NOTHING. You may say that the coders are doing more important things. but we are talking about something that is one of the most largest things ever promised in brawl.

    and that brings is to reason 2: How much has been done? Orange worked on it, that is probably something many of us will agree on. but since he left. Did any coder actually try and continue his work? did any staff member think: Maybe someone should try and continue on it so that it can be released?

    Probably not.

    TL>DR. War 2.0 has been delayed for too long. Please for the love of god, humanity and everything in between. PLEASE. just tell us if it is worked on and if there is any progress, don't say the word soon.


    Another problem in war:

    The community.
    Now i can make an entirely new thread just about the community. But i think that I am going to talk about something different: How the mods deal with the people in the community, how they play with the community and just how significant their impact is to it.

    I am not going to name any staff members ( as said above ). but I will name some good things staff do.

    So, as you may know, the community has turned from a nice and cool community to a community that can make almost anyone sick. I try to report people who glitch, spam etc. but what bothers me is that: Sometimes i see mods, Actual mc-war mods, who Don't do a Damn thing whenever someone breaks the rules, is rude ,glitches ,etc. I am not going to say that the mods are terrible, quite the contrary I think that all the mods in mc-war are cool guys. but despite being nice, they sometimes just do nothing.

    Here is an example:
    On server 1 there was a guy spamming random letters (The average guy who discovers how much fun it is to spam). There also was a mod. So, After about 30 seconds of spam and nothing else, i decided to just msg the mod saying: This guy keeps spamming, can you please mute him or something? No response. and he kept spamming until I reported him (The mod left a few seconds later, Not saying anything, not doing anything.)

    And that also shows something that some mods in mc-war lack: The way they talk with the community.

    Now I get that maybe the mod needs more important things to do (Check forums, msg players that need help, etc). but atleast they could try and talk to players? Get to answer them important questions? Anything?!
    One good example of an ex-mod who did this was mafiaferret.

    now you may ask: why is talking to the community important? shouldn't mods do things like report?

    Well, If you talk with the community you get to know people better. It will help people to trust in you. it also allows players to tell if there are problems that they need to know so that the mods can report it. I myself rather try to report rule breakers even when there are mods, to make sure that the guy still gets a temp ban instead of getting nothing because a mod didn't do a damn.

    TL : DR. The mods need to talk a lot more to the community, They should also not log on on the server when they have things to do that will prevent them from doing things on the server.

    Now let us talk about maintence:
    This is a more recent problem so it may be fixed in a few days or something but still, I think that this is worth mentioning: lag

    Now I am sure that it isn't my computer since I cleaned it up and got rid of files that i did not need. It is definitely server lag.It has been going on for VERY long now. There are small periods sometimes when there is no lag. but it still really annoys a lot of players. The servers don't get checked for problems to often. when it should probably be checked quite a lot, Since there are 100 players online a day.

    But as aforementioned. this may get fixed later.


    Now to anyone saying like: Don't go hatin on the server!
    I am not hating on the server. I am talking about some things that happen on the server that annoys a lot of people. I myself still like mc-war but these problems make me very angry.

    TL : DR. I feel like the server should try and prevent lag, ofcourse this can be difficult. but atleast they should try to keep it stable.


    Now I will say one thing: A large part of the community still makes me happy. the forum mc-war community is one of them. These are just my opinions

    also: I may have made some spelling/grammar mistakes here or there, Feel free to correct me on those

    Thank you sincerely for reading this (If you did not, please do so.) and hopefully you can try and do something about it

    Also2: If you want to hate on me, please do so on my profile.
     
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  2. profbonkars

    profbonkars Well-Known Member

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    I few notes on everything you wrote:
    A. I am unaware of how much about War 2.0 was actually told to us, or how much all the members have made up/rumored over time.
    B. I find the staff very helpful, but maybe it would be a good idea if they communicate a little more with the members.
    C. Although I have seen recently a lot of "bad eggs" on the server, I do feel we still have a lot of great people in the community.
    D. I do find the server to be lagging a lot more than usual, so I agree with you on that.
     
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  3. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    Just wait, #soon.

    hue
     
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  4. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    Could you please elaborate what you mean with
    Do you mean that the Moderators should warn in public chat, screw around with players in chat, be more on teamspeak,...?
     
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  5. tyuio

    tyuio Well-Known Member

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    The answer should really come naturally...
     
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  6. RyGuy

    RyGuy developer man

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    A. Myortvye has written this code from scratch right after he came back with Joe M. There have been not much information told to us about war 2.0, but don't you think it would take a long time to write a complete new Projectile plugin and war plugin, with many new items??
    B. Some staff are helpful, but very silent. I do see staff AFK too much, and get increases on their work hours without doing what they are supposed to be
    I do think Moderators should have a loose side. Most are just very strict, but I think everyone would enjoy it more if moderators were a bit more... screwy
    C. There are some very offensive people inside of this community, but nothing is flawless. You always have to have a few bad people in a community full of amazing people
    D. The lag is mostly caused by ping, but I have seen it happen on a lot of brawl servers, so I do believe it is caused by the hosting company, but it needs to be fixed
     
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  7. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    #Soon....Lol!

    Mods are regular people who volunteer their time. I appreciate all their work.

    I believe the hosting company is the root cause of Lag.

    LeEvil
     
  8. Dathamier

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    1. On the subject of mc-war 2.0, we all know that it's coming, and that it's happening. But we don't know when. I agree with you that I would love to know. However, our staff has it's reasons for doing what they do, and I'm not one to question how quickly our current coder is doing his job because reality takes center stage for all of us. If we could, we would be on these servers all the time (an exaggeration, you know what I mean) but we can't. Thats a reality that every gamer needs to get over, or any kind of waiting becomes horrendous and stress inducing. The only thing we can say is that we know that work is being done on it. Thats going to have to be enough for you, because it's been made clear that the work isn't done enough to release a true date. Patience is a virtue

    2. The reality here is that mc-war is naturally going to attract "worse" players than a server like survival pvp and especially creative. People who come to play only for the prospect of a Call of Duty remake tend to be CoD players themselves, and failing that, tend to be players like those who play Call of Duty. It's our jobs as the veteran players to rise above the community and play with a positive attitude. No matter how hard that may be. Complaining about something we all already know and face every day won't solve it, but making a small difference every day takes so much off the shoulders of our moderation team, who I think we can all agree do their jobs beautifully, that they can move deeper and deeper into the difficulties of this community. The more respect we give others, the more respect others will give in turn, which sounds cheesy I know, but it's true. Only time will tell if Mc-war can pull itself out of it's pit of foul sportsmanship and rude players, but I know that I won't sit idly by and cross my fingers.
     
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  9. onepunchmeme

    onepunchmeme Well-Known Member

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    I know a lot of the things that will be in 2.0...but unfortunately that's confidential. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  10. StrikerSly

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    Everything will go your way... #soon
     
  11. Copyright2017

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    I just spent my gaming time over the last 3 days setting up a gun server for me and my friends. Adding projectiles, items(guns grenades etc), game automations etc. I don't see how it can take this long to release a game! I mean really? Its not like your doing graphics or story or anything..... But then agian it is not my place to question the coders.... Just do your best! And I expect something BIG for this much time "worked on"
     
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    Extensive definition of "#soon" requested.
     
  13. StrikerSly

    StrikerSly Well-Known Member

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    I will provide the definition #soon. Unfortunately it is currently undefined as will still cannot comprehend what #soon really means
     
  14. Romkelolol

    Romkelolol Well-Known Member

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    I hate you so much xD (Jk.)

    But it seriously is getting really annoying to hear the word 'soon' over and over again without any info.

    They should just try to talk in chat. whenever someone asks them something, don't ignore that person.

    Also about TS: Mods are most of the time pretty active on that, but they should focus more on ingame chat since most people use that.
     
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  15. Algelier

    Algelier Former Staff Member.

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    1- Also, I totally agree with you. I stopped minecraft because of lag. And I think I will totally stop Mcbrawl. The community has been changed a lot. Mcwar 2.0 will be changed this Mcwar for the Best COD server of minecraft. If this update will be like the 1.8 changed version. I don't know what will be Mcwar. I waited it from a long time. Sometimes some STAFF told me that Mcwar 2.0 will arrive. Are you serious???And I just want to say something to the staff team (with no arrogance). When you update your servers, please try to do it with any lags. I do not know, make some tests. Mcwar is impossible to play today. There are so many lags and bugs in all of the way.

    2- I'm not sure that the staff does not speak with the community. When I was on teampseak. I spoke a long time with (a mod). I knew something new on him and vis-versa. But I think the mods will not speak with ALL of the players. It's a little your job to speak with them. You need to dare for speak with them. And when I started Mcwar (Sept 2013), Mcwar had ~ 9 mods (or +/-) And so, with all of the mods, Mcwar was so funny. All players spoke with all the mods. Mcwar was the best at this moment. Now it's a little "lousy".

    3- For the maintenance, I think you are right. When the servers are down, can you please tell us why? Because some players think it's for 2.0 or something else. Please tell us why the servers are down.

    And I just to tell something with ANY cruelty.

    About the application. I spoke with @Striker_Sly about this problem when he applied for mod. I don't know why you denied someone with ANY reply. I mean, you must reply when a moderator applying. Also your always reply for the players who doesn't respect the requirement. And sometimes you don't reply for the players who follows some part of the thread.

    And why you put some mods for 3 servers. Like @JaydenChadd . Please don't put one player for 3 servers. Let us please have this privilege (if we follow the guide).


    That's all for me. Thanks to read it with attention and sorry about the grammar. I did my best.
     
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  16. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    Sorry, but I think the Moderators do answer any question they might be asked in chat. Thats a very important part of their job and in my opinion all Moderators do answer questions whenever they are able to.
    Only because a Moderator doesn't answer after 30 seconds, you can't just say he never communicates with the community. Maybe he had to deal with someone on teamspeak or on the forums, which is also a part of their job as Moderator.
     
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  17. Blamo

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    Here are some updates on war 2.0 that you probably don't know:

    At first Orange451 was coding 2.0, later he left and Melsha (killer_99) took over from scratch with a new and improved peace of work. Later he left and Myortvye took over. Then Melsha came back and continued his work on 2.0 and Myortvye focused on McMoba. 2.0 is going to be out sooner then you think :wink:. As for lag, when war 2.0 comes out, lag will be a thing of the past.

    And the reason it's taking so long is because this isn't just an update, it's an entirely new server. A complete upgrade from Orange's piece of crap we have now.
     
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  18. JaydenChadd

    JaydenChadd Former SMod / Community Manager

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    We've fixed Recoil, made new World Edit barriers for every single map, and us moderators are constantly informing higher-ups about the servers that need restart.

    We are always communicating with the entire community. As Roke stated, we have two other fields to moderate besides in game. While you pm us, we may be kicking or muting on teamspeak, or in a staff meeting who knows. But we always do our best to help.

    @Algelier, I have three servers one, because I asked for them, and two, Putty and @IronRaven believed I was active enough to tackle this task. Clearly the higher-ups chose @Halo_ and I for three servers for a good reason. This doesn't mean we stop talking with the community.

    Coding 2.0 - We have five coders for a reason. You can doubt the fact that our coders are working on it all you want, it's your choice. But just know, we're not lying.
     
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  19. StrikerSly

    StrikerSly Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for making them aware of this issue that we spoke of
     
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  20. Algelier

    Algelier Former Staff Member.

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    No problem dude!

    But why? You are a global moderator (I think). Also why ask for 3 servers?
     
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