Kit idea: Seeker

thx for feedbak every1

I had a feeling someone would bring that up. Yes, I have been in horrifying combos. In fact, I get combo'd all the time on kit brawl for two reasons:

1): I was accustomed to 11ms ping in mcpvp. Now it's a lot worse
2): The only kit I use in brawl is the tank kit (with slowness 2)

And if you think I'm some scrub, take a look at my stats just from playing brawl in an afternoon:



I can't stand slowness 2. I can't chase archers at all, a lot of people escape, and I get combo'd extremely easily.

You know how I do so well though?

With so many shortcomings, the tank kit is still has a niche strength. What I do instead of trying to do what I can't with the kit, I do what other kits can't beat me at; and that would be close combat fighting. So yea, I basically wait in the building located in the center of the arena and kill every poor fool that walks in.

Seeker would have a similar strategy: Lure people into close quarters (against a tree, in a cave, tricking people into a 1x1 hole). Just imagine how powerful seeker would be in dark cave, where both players can't see but one of them has str 2.

That honestly made me cringe when I read it.

 

I was talking to msn and he said it would be easy to be combo'd and I gave him an example of the kit from brawl that can easily be combo'd but it's weaknesses are balanced by it's strengths as long as you strategize well.

You even said something along the lines of "strategy" in one of your posts so I don't understand why you bash this idea .-.

edit: forgot to say this kit would obviously have to be tested a fair amount

 

You can't critically hit with blindness, I said this in the post ._.
You also can't sprint so no combos either

 

I can understand str 2 being "too stronk" currently, because currently, all of the "strength" kits are weak in comparison to mobility kits

Woohoo! Strength 1! Now I can kill a player or two before: the pot expires/I have to leave water/it's daytime/10 seconds pass!

Or you could just go a mobility kit and have unlimited utility as well as strong offensive abilities despite being "mobility".

But that's just me ranting, which is why I made this post. Maybe I'm just fantasizing of an intense pvp server (as intense as minecraft gets) even though I know deep down, this is never going to happen. The best chances I had at giving people a taste of what I think could be a very successful minigame was during the dying phases of MCPVP. Nobody seemed to show any interest except for a handful of cool kids like Gotch2B and Stripey98, but they gave up - and so did I.

Enjoy playing your HG, but I'm afraid this just isn't my kind of HG anymore

 

Stomper.

If people can learn to shift under towers than I think people can learn to look for warning signs before running guns blazing at the first moving thing they see. Ex:

-When a Berserker is standing near a sheep
-When a Poseidon is standing by water
-Urgal doesn't have any indicator but it's not that good anyways
-When a Seeker is constantly holding an eye of ender

It's a frustrating process, but learning while playing a game is present in a lot of great games. Like Nidalee's spears in League of Legends or everything from Dark Souls. Which adds another layer of depth to the player using the kit because they have to create strategies to pull off their kit when everyone knows your intentions (like stomper traps, and how there are always new endermage traps because people slowly learn how to beat the old ones).

If a kit doesn't really have a powerful impact in the game like Achilles, Stomper, or Endermage then the kit isn't really all that special. And when's the last time you've heard someone say "Kill the animal or the Berserker will kill you!"

My point (rant) is, I can understand if everyone would prefer a more casual gamemode. Personally I don't and I'm suggesting ideas like this because I honestly don't know if there is actually ANY interest in a more competitive HG within this playerbase.

 

Time to break apart your reply

Sitting in a tower all game = camping

It is the same a using a sniper in any fps: Wait until someone walks into view, kill. It's just the view of the stomper is 100 blocks in the air instead of across the map.

You do realize you can dig 3-4 blocks underground with demoman and insta-kill anyone that digs down? By doing this I've killed Woofeh and DuckDPvP simultaneously and they started raging like kids on xbox (hehe)
It's also how Gotch2B got into the QQ a few times.

Moral of the story: Don't dig straight down

Poseidon: bucket
And there are animals in most biomes

Regardless, no matter how you look at it; both Berserker and Poseidon have infinite strength- they just get their strength from other sources.
Seeker, on the otherhand, has infinite strength but blindness at the same time. Yes, you would probably die if you run into one in a cave. The same could be said for a poseidon or a berserker if you don't have an escape. But unlike those kits, Seeker would struggle in regular combat (strafing).

A single kit isn't going to make HG competitive. This kit would add another presence to the game similar to achilles or stomper (Poseidon and Berserker could be the same if they were any stronger - but they are only half-decent). What would make HG more competitive is a large pool of kits that all each add a presence to the game in their own way.

If you didn't know the kits abilities, yes, it would be frustrating. If it WASN'T frustrating then the kit doesn't add any "presence" to the game at all. I'm sure Stomper is frustrating for new players, but you won't find a single veteran player that whines about the kit because it has a clear counter: crouching.

Do you understand what I'm getting at? This is why my kit ideas seem radical, because if everything is equally "OP" then everything is actually balanced.

HG isn't very competitive. A major reason why it's hard to win is because it's not like a 1v1 or even a team vs team game but a 1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1- you get the idea. The average player's souping skill makes it harder for new players to join more than it makes it harder to win. An idea I had was to basically put a lower skill cap on actual hotkeying (the thing new players struggle with) and instead increase other aspects of the game by putting a limit to the amount of soup you can hold (6 soups max). One of the major "aspects" to improve are the kits. Picking a kit should have a greater impact on how you play the game instead of where the closest shrooms are or where the most OP structures are.

 

>>---my points-->

===your head===

As long as mobs spawn, Berserker has infinite strength. Not literal infinite strength but access to strength at any point in the game infinitely.

Urgal has a set amount of pots; it doesn't have infinite strength.

I already said: Berserker and Poseidon are weak, you can't compare Seeker to how "balanced" they are because they aren't balanced - they suck.

Nobody would like Strength 2 unless they saw it added and everybody had some time to experiment with it. The people that approve my ideas also played HG since like 2012-2014 because Str 2 existed then.

Yeah people have learned to soup but Seeker being OP with a max of 6 soup would make Berserker and Poseidon SUPER OP in nosoup.
hint: they're not good lol

Great! We came to an agreement that this would be a great addition to HG!

I'm sure if we could just discuss this with each other in realtime you might be more convinced because most people I've had private discussions with (this was when mcpvp still existed) began to understand my thought process on making HG a great game. It also helps me rethink things that I might have overlooked.

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