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Discussion in 'Ideas' started by BlueSideWind, Jun 28, 2015.

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  1. BlueSideWind

    BlueSideWind Active Member

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    is that whats it called?

    As a Old timer of Mcpvp HG

    Remove the minimap

    It give away towers position And no I don't mean the 1 block towers going toward the sky . Im talking about platform towers with no base leading up to it.

    ALSO think about how you can bypass mountains with the map. Can you see pass a mountain and see all the good mushrooms on the other side? No? Well with the map you already know they're there

    a random dirt block in the sky? AND for those unfortunate who doesn't look up. You guess it. Killed by a stomper. But with minimap you just need one quick glance and you can see a brown dot. Totally fair right.

    Want to find Lava/water sources? see them from afar without even looking around. Lava buckets are strong but sometimes hard to find. But with the map you guess it you can see it instantly. Running from a tough enemy and you need a pond for a buff? Well you better keep running until you find one. Oh wait Reis map shows you exactly where it is with out you wasting your hunger bar.

    Come on guys think about it. Its HARDCORE games we talking about. A slight advantage of terrain is a big boost to keeping you alive.

    Also keep in mind "Ruins" in Hardcore Games such as Pyramids/Jungle Ruins stick out like a sore thumb with the map. I mean really..... you cant see through wood. So how would you know if there was ruins behind Them trees?
     
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  2. ItsNotoriousBIG

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    Yes , Rei's minimap is obviously not allowed for MANY reasons , including the easy to detect towers , caves , traps ect. Furthermore as far as im aware there was no question of people being able to use that without it being considered a cheat. All this is basically a repetition of your post but i think this sums it up quite nicely :wink: . And yes i saw a thread were a player asked if a certain mod was available and a moderator replied telling him that the minimap in the mod was no allowed .
     
  3. Rytheria

    Rytheria Well-Known Member

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    https://www.brawl.com/threads/6076/

    This thread says otherwise unless I'm mistaken?
     
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  4. ItsNotoriousBIG

    ItsNotoriousBIG Active Member

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    Yes you are correct , although i have also read a thread by staff stating it is allowed , i think that must be a mistake because knowing players location , detecting cave systems ect. is for sure a HUGE advantage
     
  5. Doges

    Doges Ex-Mod, Ex-Builder

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    You are only allowed to use the actual minimap, not the radar/cavemapping.
     
  6. ItsNotoriousBIG

    ItsNotoriousBIG Active Member

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    WHy trust people with that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. Aboves

    Aboves meh

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    We only allow maps that show the top surface of the world. No radars/cavemapping, and no player tracking.
     
  8. TheMafias

    TheMafias Something wise

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    How could you prove they aren't cheating. You give someone a little something and they can easily get away with using more, why wouldnt they abuse it. We are human, expect us to abuse this minimap. Its just another form of xray, just on a map scale. so whats to prove we aren't abusing it?
     
  9. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Even if they didn't let you use mini-maps at all, you could still use it and not get banned.
     
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  10. BlueSideWind

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    But it still give away too much information. If you are unaware of something the map will show it =.=; It would also explain how all my underground traps get detected
     
  11. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    It doesn't really give that much of a disadvantage. Cavemapping isn't allowed so underground traps shouldn't be detected, as they're underground.
     
  12. ItsNotoriousBIG

    ItsNotoriousBIG Active Member

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    What kind of player approved that rule LOL , please change that because everyone thinks its unfair except the people who use it !
     
  13. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Then why not use it yourself?
     
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  14. Rytheria

    Rytheria Well-Known Member

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    I personally don't find it unfair, if players are using it at the moment I don't see many players at much of an advantage because of it. Yes, it does allow you to be more aware of your terrain and surroundings but it's not that much of an advantage, in my personal opinion.
     
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  15. ItsNotoriousBIG

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    Because i dont need it , im good enough to play without it and not have to rely on cheats to get a win .

    Well then you are not considering what being aware of terrain actually offers you , to be fair though ill watch a video or something about it and see how op it actually is , i suggest everyone does the same!
     
  16. Thallium

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    Technically not cheating
     
  17. ItsNotoriousBIG

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    Not true , honestly how exactly do we even know if someone is sticking to the terrain or is using other functions with the minimap ! Thats why you prohibit the whole thing instead of try to limit people on something you can police ! JMHO
     
  18. Rytheria

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    Knowing terrain isn't really going to improve your ability to kill players, it's far from "op" in my opinion. Also I wouldn't consider it cheats if you only use it for terrain features. If you use it for player tracking then perhaps it is counted as cheating, but I understand your point about not knowing if they are using these features, etc.
     
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  19. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    That is still too op. Even if it only shoes the surface, it can give away towers with traps in them, dirt blocks in the sky with stompers in them. Basically, it can completely ruin someone's strategy
     
  20. BookWyrm17

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    I'm confused.
    Minimap is allowed?
    .....
    Why?
    I am kinda confused on why you would allow this anyway... A big part of the game was always the EXPLORING... Some of the better games were when you remembered the hidden cliff/ravine off to your right and made the player chasing you fall in, but with minimap, those kind of strategies are useless....
    I guess all of us McPvPers just think that you are removing a big chunk of strategies by allowing this... there is a reason it was called a hack back then.
    Plus you guys did kinda say you weren't going to change it much. And even if this didn't look like much when you first did it, I think it would certainly qualify now. (I don't really want to use that tactic, because I do want to see updates... but NEW stuff, not making old hacks legal :/ )
    Plus, what about the people who can't/don't know how to get a mod? Minimap for other players does give them a big advantage. You say its not affecting PvP, but if the other player has a inventory full of soup because they had minimap, and you only have a couple bowls, I would say thats affecting PvP. If they have a diamond sword and iron armor because of minimap (structures) and you are still running around with stone, that is definitely affecting pvp.
     
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