Kits: Dash, King, Bloodline, Rat, Tenderfoot, Vine, Fish, Farmer, Merchant, Mooshroom, and Patch

I think fish should be perm water breathing and speed 1/2 underwater because I don't think anyone wants 8 minutes of free swim.. Other then that, great ideas!

 

Aren't those the exact same thing

 

Yes they are xD .5 heart = 1 heatlh we have 20 health and 10 hearts

 

These kit ideas are very very cool, I'll post my opinion on all of then individually when I get back on my computer but the standouts are definitely Dash and Mooshroom.

(psst if you want a format/guideline for these check out this)

 

Dash:
Speed III for 10 seconds isn't that useful especially if you're fighting someone solo

Rat:
How long is the weakness? And how much? (1,2,3) Has potential +1

Tenderfoot:
A more useful frosty +1
But aren't the grass blocks useless if they only get speed in plains? I wouldn't stand on a grass block for 3 min just for a level...

Fish:
Too UP, please improve -1

Farmer:
Honestly, I don't see why anyone will go this kit. All a cultivator needs is to get 2 seeds, and it's set. No one will go another kit just for melons. Besides, bread has better saturation -1

Merchant:
Villagers normally have horrible trades, so I don't think this would be good. -1

Mooshroom:
The first part sounds a bit too OP, maybe 1 soup with a 7% chance? I don't see the point of the second part where you click on mushrooms. Has potential +1

Patch:
I pick 10 and 15 hearts respectively. Might be a little too OP especially in no soup. Shouldn't a piece of paper be one of the starting items? +1

King, Bloodline, Vine:
tl;dr. Your kit should not be overly complicated like these ones. No one is willing to spend like 10 minutes memorising the abilities of kits. Kits that are in game are very easy to remember what they do, this is way too complicated -3

Overall: Good try, and you do have good ideas. Try not to make it too complicated and next time, write the pros and cons

 

Can you add an Evil Overlord kit?

 

I honestly like NONE of these ideas , they are all just copies of existing ones with some minor changes or they are all just OP/UP .

Dash= Honestly no point in this , ever heard of scout ???
King = One of the best ideas here although i still feel like it has no practical uses .
Bloodline= Slightly more complex than a kit should be , stick with the simple things because the concepts people grasp in a second are the best sellers ( kangaroo , grappler , madman )
Rat=Way to OP , ever heard of madman ??
Tenderfoot= This is way to op as speed 2 and xp should not be granted just because of a specific biome , not to mention i dont see where the stomper part ties in , doesn't make any sense !
Vine=Bad Tarzan revamp .
Fish= NO POINT TO ADD THIS , and im almost positive Poseidon cant drown !
Farmer=Does not make much sense and overall UP
Merchant=Just UP , whats the chance of getting anything worthwile with 5 emeralds in 3 villagers !
Mooshroom= Mushroom learn to spell plox
Patch= Only good thing is the regen which takes place , but i think its to OP for nosoup servers !

 

I disagree with your point on Dash, it would be very helpful getting a SPEED III boost after killing a player for several reasons;

1. If your opponent is in a team, you can kill one of the team members and run away easily
2. Speed III allows you to get insane combos for that 10 seconds
3. (this point is only valid if you get speed boost from mobs) You can kill mobs to get a combo and escape boost

There are quite a few possibilities with Dash in my opinion, and I think it could be something interesting to test.
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Also your point on Mooshroom is invalid, you gave no reason why you don't like it besides it's spelling. I like the concept of being able to have the chance to "steal" soup from your opponents inventory automatically, it could be very effective and fun to play with.

 

1. Dash is just a inferior version of Scout which is way better and allows for speed 2 for a much longer duration therefore is way better !

2. Mooshroom is not a good idea in my eyes since it has no reason to be implemented in No-soup HG and because a 14% chance to get 2 soup LOL ! That is insanely op considering when i play HG i hardly get hit at all ! With that logic all good plays who hit 3 times a second will be gaining 2 soup way to frequently , perhaps a 5% chance of 1 soup is more logical !

 

1. I wouldn't say it's inferior, I'd say it's different.
Scout gives you 2 potions which regenerate slowly, they do last longer however they are also Speed II.
Dash on the other hand is toggled when you kill an opponent, you have little time to use it however you have Speed III (perhaps even Speed IV would be better). It really depends against tactics, you saying that Dash/Scout are inferior/superior to each other is like saying Berserker/Urgal are inferior/superior to each other - they're different.

2. I get your point, I didn't really take the percentages into account when I looked at the idea - I merely looked at the idea of grabbing a soup from your opponent, etc. If the percentages were changed I think this idea has potential.

 

1. Beserker and Urgal cant be compared since Urgal pots wont regenerate although you do have a point . Furthermore i think that Speed IV might turn in to a disadvantage as at that speed its harder to control your player than most would think , 1 kill= 17 second of speed III would be more ideal although still inferior to scout !

2. Yes i agree !