We don't want this.

Why should it have a smaller few? I thought you were promoting more opportunity? There are plenty of people who are capable of handling WorldEdit with few restrictions. Creative has already proved this, and it is proving it right now. If anything we need a bigger few. Your lack of faith in our community seriously disturbs me.

 

Creative has crashed and Build hasnt in its time on MCPVP, so it's obvious that I would have my doubts. The simple fact that everybody gets WE in the beginning and their own map to use is much more opportunity than Creative has ever given to the new players. At the expense of a few people many will benefit, and even then you can work for the Trusted Rank just as you did with Creative.

Every(Beside a few that were around before Build, they are now transferred to make the system easier) CTF map was created using Build, and all of those maps were under restriction besides mods helping to flip, so it is very possible to have more opportunity with restrictions on WE.

Another thing that Build has over creative is the ability to make maps much more efficient for all gamemodes. Any errors with a map can quickly be edited on build and be seen live on CTF.

 

We are. Trusted just gives a little more functionality to people who we think deserve it. There's no application system because being noticed and recommended is a far better way to receive a rank than potentially making endless threads about it (not naming any names...) and guilt tripping the mods.

 

But many can benefit, without the expense of people who can be trusted. There doesn't have to be a "trade-off" if you can just have both. I am all for giving new players WorldEdit, but we don't have to chain everyone down to the same level. The trusted rank should be available to everyone who can be trusted to not crash the server intentionally. The reason I say intentionally is because accidents do happen. But even on creative, it doesn't happen often. I can only recall three times since the beginning of the year, where the server has crashed as a result of someone else while I have been online.

I don't think we should restrict everyone based on a few accidents that might happen. Should we make owning a car almost impossible just because there's a small chance they might get into an accident with it?

It's inefficient and unfair, as it doesn't acknowledge people who deserve it but don't get noticed either do to bad luck or lack of chat activity. It adds plenty of time to the mod's workload that simply could be avoided through putting everyone in one place. An individual basis system will also induce a lot more begging, which could also be simply avoided by allowing players to write an application, letting the player know that they at least got heard.

It puzzles me that you guys advocate things such as fairness and equal opportunity, but then you go on to contradict these beliefs when it conflicts with your McBuild Utopia.

 

Everybody has the equal opportunity to earn the trusted Rank, so it doesn't conflict with anything.

 

Um, excuse me, but no they don't. I already explained this, but here we go again. If it's done on an individual basis, then instead of everyone getting to post something that is guaranteed to be evaluated, the only players that get evaluated are the players that the mods have time for. Like I said, "it doesn't acknowledge people who deserve it but don't get noticed either do to bad luck or lack of chat activity."

 

They all have the chance to get noticed, Its the players that show they are worth the mods time who get rewarded.

I'm sounding like a broken record now. Lets just stop this since Build is happening either way

 

No, that's not why I created it: it's for people who could, for example, feasibly be mods if they wanted to. If we give it out willy nilly it devalues it.

I remember it crashing at least 3 times in my first week; Build, on the other hand, has never crashed from a regular player using WE.

Part of the requirement is chat activity, plus even if mods aren't online they'll get recommendations from regular players.

???? All they have to do is read chat, not sure how this is an increase in workload?

>O pls give me trusted
>No, and begging will only lower your chances
>ok

Problem solved

We could just get rid of the rank altogether, that's still an option at this point ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

The mods don't have time to notice everyone, and mods are not omniscient as you believe them to be. They don't see everything that everyone builds all at once. There isn't a blip that automatically goes off on a mod's radar when someone becomes worthy by their standards. Mods may also choose to pay more attention to people they know than people they don't.

 

I answered you below in BOLD.

Please STOP being so nostalgic about McBuild, like some people here are about Creative (as you guys have already pointed out). I am working to improve what McBuild WILL BE, not to bring back what Creative once WAS. I don't share the goals of everybody here. Also, maybe accept that this is a merge, and not a replacement. This community is not your old community, and some people here happen to not agree with you. Stop stamping "self-entitled" onto everyone here, and maybe look at what YOU are saying.

I will not be posting in this thread anymore, because the original post doesn't completely reflect my ideas on this issue. I will be making my own thread, so either direct your reply there or to me in a PM.

 

I have seen 0 nostalgia about McBuild. There's no point trying to put the same words on them that they use with you, because, well frankly, they don't work. This is basically a replacement, not much of a merge, besides the merging of communities that is. If you truly want to improve build, stop arguing about pesky little things such as build restrictions and a damn rank that isn't even finalized yet, as that can be sorted out once the build replaces creative, the communities merge, and the bugs are fixed.
B4 someone mentions, already saw the part in red, don't care, we'll see on your thread now.

 

I wouldn't want to turn the global chat off, I'd just like to make it less noticeable. But, then again, that's just me.

 

You can turn your chat opacity down. That makes the chat harder to see.

 

I can't make a fair vote because I don't feel like either of the options shows how I feel about this subject. I feel like there could be a very simple option: an actual Merge. Merging the two games together, rather than this take-over. It doesn't seem fair to the players who have mastered building in Creative.

I have no clue as to where people are getting the idea that Build is better than Creative... That is completely opinionated. Build isn't perfect, it's far from it as of now. Creative isn't perfect either, but merging the two games together might improve them both.

I wasn't very happy when I heard that a server was shutting down so they are taking our server instead. No one on Brawl invited McPvP to join us. I feel like this is some sort of attack on Creative because Build is just coming in and kicking all of the Creative members out, even though we were here first and there are more of us...

I know about turning the entire chat's opacity down, but that makes the local chat harder to see as well.

 

We're not kicking you out. You will still be able to build on Build. And building is no different on Creative than on Build. So saying that you don't want to transfer because you've mastered building on creative is silly. Building is the same no matter where it is.

Hmm, to add on, Build is simply better than Creative. It offers world edit to everyone, and a world to build in for everyone. I don't see why we need to merge. What features of Creative do you need on Build?

 

Plus Chap personally prefers Build to Creative.

 

Personal preference doesn't matter, but if you're in charge it does