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Kit idea! Replacing Gladiator?!

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by xGhale, Jul 12, 2015.

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Is it too big?

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  2. No

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  1. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Alright, it's complicated.
    Kit Name: Sensei/Kendo/Samurai
    Starting Items: Brewing Stand,
    renamed "1v1 Starter"
    Abilities: You right click your item on someone to begin your 1v1. The Arena will depend on your kit rank (comes later). Anyways, after this 10 random players are TP'ed into a spectating area in your arena. These players then see your stats (and those from your opponent) in a book in their hotbar. They don't lose their items from before, they get them back after the fight. They can then do /wager "name" on a 1v1ning player. If they don't place a wager, a random person is picked for them. If they win a wager, they get a reward (not sure what yet), if they lose, they receive nothing.
    Now, the ranks and their effects on the 1v1:
    1) Beginner
    This is the first rank. In the arena, both players get full leather armour, a stone sword, and 26 soups. None of these items is dropped later, whatever the rank. The players are able to move on a 20 long, 5 wide strip. They may NOT move past each other or out of these lines (is this codable??).
    2)Samurai/Swordsman
    Obtained: Buy it
    Get 10 wins with the rank above
    or reach 20 kills with the rank above in one game
    Arena: The players get a sharp 1 stone sword, a chain helmet, an iron chestplate, the rest is chain as well. They get 32 soups, and 16 of each mushroom+bowls.
    The arena now contains trees, but the duelists are not able to go past each other.
    3)Sensei/Master/Pro
    Obtained: Buy it
    Get 50 wins or get 25 kills in 5 games with the rank above
    Arena: A little twist here. There is the sensei/whatever and the player he challenges, but another random player is also taken, making it a 2v1. If the random player is killed during the match, he is placed back to where he was and receives Poison or something.
    Arena: Sensei: An iron sword, full iron except helmet, full inv soup plus 32 of each to recraft.
    The opponents: one is damage-doing: full chain, sharp 1 diamond sword and 26 soups, the other is damage-taking and gets full iron except helmet, a sharp 1 stone sword, and full inv soup plus 16 recraft!
    FOR ALL RANKS:
    -Fights last 180 seconds max, then there is a 60 second cooldown
    -Mobility kits are disabled, but aggresive kits, e.g. Viper, are enabled





    Pros: Makes gladiator fights fairer, makes the game more interesting for really good players (2v1)


    Cons: heavy code, No need to get materials?

    ANY feedback is appreciated
    Congratz if you got to here!
    :wink:
     
    #1 xGhale, Jul 12, 2015
  2. ItsNotoriousBIG

    ItsNotoriousBIG Active Member

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    Nah , Gladiator is a kit that does not need to be tweaked at all , at the moment its a great kit and works fine !
    Other than that the idea is slightly more complex than what is looked for in a kit .

    And the TPing random people is a TERRIBLE IDEA , cant emphasize that point enough , dont attempt to break HG !
     
    #2 ItsNotoriousBIG, Jul 12, 2015
  3. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    The main problem that I have with Gladiator is that you have to rely on your soups. If your enemy has a full inventory and you only have one hotbar of soup...
     
    #3 xGhale, Jul 12, 2015
  4. FairyBlossom03

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    I like this idea even though I don't know anything about Hg :smile:
    It's Dps and Tank. Sorry, that just annoys me :stuck_out_tongue:
     
    #4 FairyBlossom03, Jul 12, 2015
  5. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Thank you!
     
    #5 xGhale, Jul 12, 2015
  6. dEdGamerz

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    Interesting idea... Although I do agree that teleporting random people would be a terrible idea. What if someone gets tp'd during a fight? They basically get a free ticket out as i doubt someone is going to sit around for 3 minutes waiting for them to return.
     
    #6 dEdGamerz, Jul 12, 2015
  7. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    No. I'm sorry to say this, but this is one of the worst kit ideas I've seen. Gladiator doesn't need a buff/nerf. From the pros: makes game more interesting, I think you're just removing the anti-team concept of Gladiator. The ranking up idea is also bad IMO. I don't think people would want a kit with changing abilities. Also, why tp random people?

    I see you have good kit ideas, but this is way too complicated.
    (This should be in the server ideas section too)
     
    #7 MattM1PVP, Jul 13, 2015
  8. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    :,( Na just kidding But ok. I guess you could remove the betting aspect for the other players...as in not TP them. It's just that I tend to play kits like Thor, which don't work in a Gladi arena, and I often don't have as much soup...
     
    #8 xGhale, Jul 13, 2015
  9. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    Get more soup then :grinning:
     
    #9 MattM1PVP, Jul 13, 2015
  10. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Sigh...if it were that easy...it's just that for example yesterday I took out 3 teams and then a Gladiator came up. I died.
     
    #10 xGhale, Jul 13, 2015
  11. Rytheria

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    I think Gladiator in it's current form is balanced, and doesn't need reworking of any sort.
    If your problem is having limited soup, spend time collecting more soup rather than going for early fights, it doesn't take long to get a stack of each mushroom which is more than enough to beat somebody in a 1v1/Gladiator arena. Also, if you're finding gladiators a problem; play a power kit (maybe viper) which gives you that small edge in a 1v1 fight.

    The idea we have here is just too complex and not needed, simplicity is key with most kits my friend.
     
    #11 Rytheria, Jul 13, 2015
  12. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    1)Not balanced (own views)
    Uhm...I need long getting to a swamp thanks (Hermit is broken), Viper is bugged for me and I don't really want to bow and use Kanga. Just the way it is.
     
    #12 xGhale, Jul 13, 2015
  13. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    You can go an anti-fall damage kit and tower out
     
    #13 MattM1PVP, Jul 13, 2015
  14. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    And then I die before I can move.
     
    #14 xGhale, Jul 14, 2015
  15. Rytheria

    Rytheria Well-Known Member

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    I'd personally say Gladiator is one of the more balanced kits out of the whole lot.
    It gives you a room to 1v1 your opponents, you honestly get no advantages as a Gladiator in that 1v1. Other players can pick kits like viper, kanga, etc and can then you should pretty easily (unless the Gladiator is good in an open 1v1) be able to beat him.

    It's all about strategy, and I definitely don't think Gladiator should be changed at all.
     
    #15 Rytheria, Jul 15, 2015
  16. ReklessPlays

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    I think this would just add more lag to the game. Since it is still in beta, more lag added to it wouldn't help at all. Overall this is an ok idea but there are a lot of flaws.
     
    #16 ReklessPlays, Jul 15, 2015
  17. Viva

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    I think that this would complicate Gladiator a bit too much. I personally see Gladiator as one of the more balanced, as it in general creates a fair 1v1 space for both players. However, the person Gladiated generally has an advantage (pvp kit), making the kit more fair if you get gladiated. I'd just spend more time collecting mushrooms to be more prepared.
     
    #17 Viva, Jul 15, 2015
  18. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    And then I get killed because I lagged and couldn't craft.
     
    #18 xGhale, Jul 15, 2015
  19. Rytheria

    Rytheria Well-Known Member

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    You'd die if you lagged in a gladiator arena or in the normal map, your argument is invalid.
    If perhaps you can't refill well or recraft, focus on getting combo's, they usually do the trick.
     
    #19 Rytheria, Jul 15, 2015
  20. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Sigh...that is why I want this kit. I get about 300ms due to the Server merge (facepalm) and you are not able to fight someone with 40MS with my internet. In my idea, you can't move past your opponent, which would make it fair on noobs like me who can't afford 70€ a month for internet.
    Am I getting through to you?
     
    #20 xGhale, Jul 16, 2015
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