1. Welcome to the Brawl website! Feel free to look around our forums. Join our growing community by typing /register in-game!

We don't want this.

Discussion in 'Creative' started by Slovakoko, Jul 12, 2015.

?

Do you think this merge is a good idea?

  1. No, Creative should stay creative.

    51 vote(s)
    49.5%
  2. Yes, it's a great idea!

    52 vote(s)
    50.5%
Thread Status:
Please be aware that this thread is more than 30 days old. Do not post unless the topic can still be discussed. Read more...
  1. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2013
    Messages:
    8,931
    Ratings:
    +1,826
    Forgot I did. Vacation for four days, no wifi, didn't think I posted on this thread, yeah.
     
  2. rmure

    rmure Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2013
    Messages:
    1,117
    Ratings:
    +304
    Oh crap I just realized that was lennyface *facepalm*
     
  3. quinox_

    quinox_ Ex-Ex-Builder, Nub+

    Joined:
    May 22, 2015
    Messages:
    206
    Ratings:
    +49
    upload_2015-7-16_13-16-59.png
    congrats this petition has proved that there are more people for a merge than against it, also these votes don't match the amount of people who actually signed it so yay for anonymous people that feel it isn't worth fighting for but want others to change for their lack of determination for themselves.
     
  4. Risabu

    Risabu Active Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2015
    Messages:
    202
    Ratings:
    +62
    "We like to build maps as well but also like to build other things. Having many plots allow us to build many different kinds of things. In Build, you get one world for a map that not everyone might want to work on."

    You have a whole world with lots of space. You can build both a map and small little things if you wish to, its not a big deal.

    "Creative players just seem creative and fun."

    *Except the creative and fun goes out the window when half of you argue for ranks

    "Having many plots allow us to build many different kinds of things."

    You're not very creative if you require set plots that scream organization and sections to actually be creative. You have a whole damn world. Use it.

    "In Build, you get one world for a map that not everyone might want to work on."

    If you don't want to make a map, don't make a map on your world ???!??!?!?!?!? Is this so hard to understand?
    You and every single one of your friends gets their own world. That gives you a **** ton more of space than you had beforehand to do whatever you want to do.

    "Once they fill up the whole area and need more space"
    I've never needed more space. You won't actually need any space unless you're doing a professional map that will actually be used in servers. And if that happens, I'm sure the staff will give you another map.

    "However, mentioning any of these won't matter since it's just about the money. I thought the staff wanted to make our community happy but okay. I no longer want to argue. I understand it's all just about the money."

    What a terrible argument. First of all, its a business, so money is a huge aspect. Second of all, they could take all of your precious ranks away, and change it so that you only get 1 plot and you have to buy more. They own this server. They didn't need to spend more money to a foreign party for build, as if they wanted to milk money, they could do it by imposing restrictions on your creative. They didn't need to spend valuable coder time on the project if they wanted to milk money out of you.

    Obviously its all about the money since they're giving the majority more privileges and space. Good game logic, good game.

    No it isn't, banners actually changed a lot of how CTF is regularly played and screwed up the balance to a large point. Of course, the community reacted in a ****ty way to it. The issue was about the word of staff. People felt betrayed and worried that while they were told there would be no changes to actual gameplay, there were, even if they were unintentional. Banners had actually screwed up a lot of the balance until some of the issues were fixed.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. rmure

    rmure Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2013
    Messages:
    1,117
    Ratings:
    +304
    It started out 8-0, thing is the alts attacked
     
  6. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2013
    Messages:
    8,931
    Ratings:
    +1,826
    Yes it is. That topic caused a huge argument on the forum. This thread is acting in a similar manner. Therefore, this thread is similar to the wool vs banner argument.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  7. schml1f

    schml1f Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2014
    Messages:
    205
    Ratings:
    +24
    I sign this ****.
     
  8. potatoesky

    potatoesky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2014
    Messages:
    578
    Ratings:
    +658
    I'm not gonna lie. I'll admit that my argument was terrible. I'm not good at putting thoughts into words. You're right. It's a business, so money is a huge aspect. I don't know what I was trying to say. I guess I would just say even the dumbest things to try keeping Creative. However, I think I'm going to give up. First, arguing never ends well. Second, the replacement has already been decided, so no one can really do anything about it. Finally, to be honest, Creative and just Brawl in general is getting pretty boring for me. Not sure if that's just me (probably is) but I've been pretty inactive lately because I just lost interest. Well, I don't wanna say too much detail about it. I am no longer going to reply on this thread.
     
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
  9. Risabu

    Risabu Active Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2015
    Messages:
    202
    Ratings:
    +62
    holocaust=chicken in a nutshell
     
  10. Trego_7777777

    Trego_7777777 Active Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2015
    Messages:
    94
    Ratings:
    +32
    Woah... that's deep...
    deep fried...

    sowwy....
    but xddd
    I'll regret posting this.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  11. Pegleg98

    Pegleg98 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    1,094
    Ratings:
    +535
    Some of the arguments some people are making in defense of their server are hilarious. It's like two religious cults going head to head. I would like to see a compromise where we get a server with elements from both servers, but then everyone looks at me and says "Shut up, ****lord. MY server is superior in every way to the other. NO COMPROMISE."
     
  12. furtles

    furtles Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2015
    Messages:
    945
    Ratings:
    +135
    Well, there's not really a reason to compromise. The only reason to keep Creative is to keep a player base. However, people who would quit due to Creative's removal probably aren't a very important dynamic because they don't pay any money to Brawl. Please provide a valid reason why we should compromise.

    Think of Brawl as a coffee shop. The people in the coffee shop are the people who play Brawl. The pastries and drinks that the coffee shop sells are ranks and other purchasable items. Everyday, many people buy coffee and pastries. But, there are some people who just come in and sit down to use the free wifi. These people don't buy anything. So, the owner decides that the wifi should be password protected. All paying customers are given the password when they pay. This makes all the wifi leeches leave and go to the coffee shop down the street? If you were the owner, would you care if these people came? It's the harsh reality of business.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  13. Pegleg98

    Pegleg98 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    1,094
    Ratings:
    +535
    Ok, so the Creative community is a leech to Build? Great analogy. That really just confirms what I've been thinking all along. I really don't think a lot of you give a flying frak about our community. Some of you may, but a lot of you really just want to preserve your community. Compromise isn't an option for you, because that would mean changing your server. It would become impure, ruined!

    It's not like some of the Creative players coming in may actually buy something right? Haha, that's insane. Leeches don't buy anything. Send 'em to the camps!
     
  14. furtles

    furtles Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2015
    Messages:
    945
    Ratings:
    +135
    I never said the Creative community were leeches to the Build community. I meant that the were using the servers without paying for anything. 'Leech' might not be the right word, but no offense was intended. I also never said or implied I didn't care about your community. The Creative player base is pretty large. All I said was from a business point of view, there's no reason to keep Creative or merge. From a gameplay perspective, there's no reason to merge. I am not opposed to changes to Build. I have supported a lot of changes to Build. But I support changes that would improve Build, and add to the server, without harming it. Adding infinite plots to Build would harm it. Servers need to be self suffcient. The need to make some sort of money to survive. Why buy more maps with infinite plots? It just doesn't make sense.
     
  15. Pegleg98

    Pegleg98 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    1,094
    Ratings:
    +535
    Who said the plots were infinite? They would never be infinite, it's not even infinite right now. Adding a plot world isn't going to ruin Build's income. In fact, it could be made into another incentive to pay.

    And since what I said in my last comment isn't the case, and the Creative community's input means something to you, then there shouldn't be any major problems with including a plot world as well as a map world, correct?
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    #175 Pegleg98, Jul 16, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2015
  16. ducklingg

    ducklingg Active Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2015
    Messages:
    68
    Ratings:
    +13
    I just started my own plot, because before that, I was building in my friend's plot. I still want creative
     
  17. November

    November november

    Joined:
    May 17, 2015
    Messages:
    827
    Ratings:
    +569
    i have 26 512x512 maps on build lol ez
     
  18. Risabu

    Risabu Active Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2015
    Messages:
    202
    Ratings:
    +62
    Matt wtf wouldn't you rather prefer a plot on a plot world instead????????
     
  19. November

    November november

    Joined:
    May 17, 2015
    Messages:
    827
    Ratings:
    +569
    yeah definitely. my 80x80 plot that i filled with 1 build is much better than that
     
  20. Compositions

    Compositions Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2014
    Messages:
    559
    Ratings:
    +187
Loading...
Similar Threads Forum Date
I don't have my builder rank? MinecraftBuild Nov 15, 2020
Don't be scared of 1.14 Capture the Flag Jul 29, 2019
Placing entities on worlds that you don't have perms MinecraftBuild Jul 29, 2019
Don't trust SpeederPvP Raid Mar 13, 2019
AMA I don't have five years but Off Topic Nov 11, 2018
Thread Status:
Please be aware that this thread is more than 30 days old. Do not post unless the topic can still be discussed. Read more...