How to: Annoy an admin (Yinscape)

1. I was mod before you even joined brawl
2. Even if I were to do those kinds of things I wouldn't be as stupid as ash to do something like that
3. Even if it did happen why post it on the forums? It makes you look like the joke of the century to have as a staff member
4. Thank yinskape for having a sense of humor, some other people would have demoted you on the spot (probably no staff here)

 

I think this is reflected in how Mods act and go about their business. I think you are spot on. This culture isn't helpful for creating and managing the server.

Mods, Admins, and other staff need to be professional at all times, even on back channel work.

I think @HauntedGhost is just being honest. If Mods, admins, and staff are so offended they would censure someone for calling out what happened would you really trust them with anything else they do?

I wouldn't.

HauntedGhost is helpful in explaining what he saw I think it gives us a line of sight into the culture that exists. Personally, I think this culture needs to change. Leaders lead at all times not just when people are watching.

 

You have to remember though that the staff are people just like you and I, they like to have fun with their friends every so often. I still remember the channel raid when Brittan and Putty gave Peter admin on teamspeak. As long as they don't overstep the boundaries everything should be fine.

 

1. I said I was a former staff member because I have had recent experience with the staff here at Brawl, thus stating that I knew what I was talking about.
2. What Ash did wasn't stupid. She was in a private channel and was having fun. Moderators are allowed to have fun as long as they don't overstep their boundaries, which in this case, Ashlyn didn't. Now, for example, if she did that in a public channel and was being disruptive, then that would be another case. The staff of Brawl isn't super strict about our moderator's behavior when they aren't "on duty." Being in a private channel with staff and friends isn't what I would call "on duty. Sure, mods shouldn't be hacking or being a bad example, but I don't see anything wrong with what she did. If Yin, who is an admin, didn't strip her of her rank because of it, that should tell you something. If you have an issue with the way the staff team works, take it up with an admin or apply for staff here if you think you could change things for the better.
3. That depends on your view of what a staff member should look like. If you believes that staff should have to be 100% mature every second they are online, then maybe you would think that way. However, the majority of the people here don't believe that and recognize the fact that mods are people too, and should be allowed to have some degree of fun.
4. The key words being "(probably no staff here)." If what she did wasn't in violation of our expectations for a moderator, why should she have to change? If you can show that a good amount of people in the community want our moderators to change and act maturely, even when among themselves and themselves only, then maybe a change is warranted. That being said, most of our community would probably want mods that they could relate to. Nobody likes a stuck-up mod.

I don't see moderators acting immature on-duty really.

Why? What's the point?

Can you explain what you mean by this? I don't know what you are talking about.

I truly don't see what you are getting at. Did Haunted post something that was deleted? Also, leaders are allowed to have fun and actually socialize with each other.

 

I know that, however the way you stated you being a mod made you look arrogant, plus you don't have to be mod to understand it.

To be honest, I believe that what Ash did was pretty stupid. I don't know if you call that having fun, because I would be pretty annoyed if I were yin. I may know a little more about the situation but I won't say what it was because of the fact that I'm not 100% sure in it. I know that the admins aren't strict about mods off duty, but they can't act like a fool when they aren't on duty. Going to my #4 statement, yin didn't strip her of her rank because first off, yin isn't really an admin who is there to discipline people, and he does have a really nice sense of humor and wouldn't do anything until it gets bad.

Well honestly I liked the staff team on how it was in early-mid 2014, which (imo) was brawl's staff at its prime (I didn't know much about 2013, no opinion there). It was pretty hard to get mod and you had (didn't finish, give me a minute)

Honestly on my 4th statement I was just warning her and saying that she would need to be careful and plus people can be unpredictable on bad days (ex. Mrcowlick took some teasing the wrong way after a bad day which eventually lead him to getting demoted)

 

I apologize for that. I in no way meant to be arrogant. I actually intended that statement to be humorous, but you know, words on a screen have little way of showing emotion. The only reason why I put that I was a former mod for the Brawl staff team was to show that I knew how the staff acted when not on-duty something that not many players have first hand experience with.

Kinda off-topic, but if you want to know what it took to be staff in 2013, take a look at the accepted applications here. :V

^Wise words here. Listen to the man.

 

He has a perfectly valid point you know?

 

Tag are just normal players who are worthy and responsible enough to work power. Just because we have a rank doesn't mean we are inhuman, and don't like to have fun, or joke around.

 

I used to be mod on another server (which unfortunately went down) and was good friends with the other mods/admins/ops on the server. We messed around all of the time, the owner once sat there for ten minutes straight using the smite command on me because I was joking around with him.
Staff shouldn't act any differently than a sensible person. Have fun when you're able to, become serious when it's needed. most of the server should not only know a moderator by name, but also be able to have a nice, friendly conversation with them, and be friends with the staff. A player who plays for more than a week should be able to say that they're good friends with at least 3 staff members and can joke around with them without problems happening.

 

This is how I moderated, and the results were wonderful. I commanded the respect of those on the servers I moderated because they knew I meant business, but I was always friendly about it. From my experience as a moderator, I believe I was very well-liked, and I believe it was because I was willing to completely forgo the high horse, and act like the community member that I was. A mod is just a trusted member of the community who has power. :V