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Continuous staff criticism

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by RyGuy, Sep 2, 2015.

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  1. RyGuy

    RyGuy developer man

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    The continuous staff criticism of Brawl's staff has been absolutely outrageous. I do not understand how the community can critisize Brawl's staff considering the heavy workload they all accept as volunteer work as well as balancing everything they have to do in their real lives. I simply do not understand how the community can think that the staff will consider volunteering countless hours on brawl over working on school work. It is completely absurd. In this rant, I will be going over all the scenerios in which the community could assist staff more than critisize them.

    Administrators: I am positive no one really understands what all the administrators do behind the scenes. The admins need ideas from the community to host events, and in that process, they also need developers assistance while not breaking the rules of the EULA

    Developers: As I am sure other developers have experienced, it takes an extremely long time to choose a plug-in, and it is extremely difficult to do. Now, imagine trying to make a full server with as many details as that have been promised in new versions. Now, imagine making 3 servers with a team of 7 developers while attempting to obey the rules of the NDA.

    Senior Moderators: Super Moderators jobs are now completed faster because of the designation of jobs, but they still have many jobs, and it is hard to work with their workload. For example, many people complain about the slowness of reports. I do not think anyone realises the amount of reports they get, through Slack AND the forums

    Junior Moderators/Moderators: The players with these staffing positions constantly work to provide a safer place for the community to play in. These positions, like all the rest, deserve a lot more credit for what they do. I will be honest, some Moderators could do a better job standing up for themselves.

    Wiki Team: The wiki team is a position that can have various amount of times where they do not work. The wiki is a thing that can be finished, even if it is a temporary completion. The wiki team is also a job that relies on the community for things they may miss.

    What I am really trying to say is that staff should be given more gratitude for what they do. Staff criticism is a thing that heavily effects brawl, even from the beginning of multiplayer servers, when I first joined. It needs to be addressed, and it needs to stop. Thank you for reading, and then you for your time! - RyGuy/iBrawl
     
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  2. Lozzylouise

    Lozzylouise SG Player at Heart

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    Well said. Players need to appreciate everything the staff does for the server a bit more apart from just non stop complaining.
     
  3. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    I think players should appreciate mods more then they do. I believe it's disrespectful to not and respect as many mods as I can.
     
  4. profbonkars

    profbonkars Well-Known Member

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    Your argument is very weak. Brawl already breaks EULA. Not sure why you said admins are trying to prevent it.

    The rest of it was not worth my time to argue against.
     
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  5. Romkelolol

    Romkelolol Well-Known Member

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    First of all: Criticism is fine, if not great for brawl staff. There is never enough GOOD criticism. the problem is that some people just criticize brawl and its mods just 'because'. Some of the things people are criticizing brawl for are very true (brittan got demoted, and I honestly believe that was a good choise). I can see that the amount of rants are atrocious at times, but atleast they aren't pointless rants.

    Now about all the staff,

    The administrators are fine. They work hard, rarely do they get rants (Except for brittan, and they DID fix that. Showing that they atleast know what to do and what not to).

    The developers, I have to somewhat disagree on. The coders SAY that they are working on the new servers, but we hardly got any evidence of that. Until the rants finally got the coders to do some work (War finally got fixed, New server information, etc). Sure, it may take long to code something. But they promised things that clearly weren't true, which is why there were so many rants on coders.

    Senior Moderators are also somewhat positive. Most of the S mods are doing a great job on the servers. However, I believe that 2 of the Smods just shouldn't be Smods. That is because they have another Rank that makes them less able to do their jobs as a Smod. But despite that, the Smods are most likely fine.

    Most moderators are also doing their jobs fine. Honestly, the mods we have are very good at what they are doing. The only problem I have is the fact that some of the newer McPvP mods are more active in game to the point of them being inactive on the forums.

    And junior mods+Wiki team are an entirely different subject.


    Honestly, the staff are somewhat doing fine. The only problem is that:
    1. There are too little
    2. They aren't doing their job as good as they should be doing it.


    But here is something that kind of annoys me:

    This is just stupid. No criticism? Really? So we should accept that some of the staff members aren't doing their job as good as they should be? There should always be staff criticism. It helps the server more than it hurts it.
     
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  6. StrikerSly

    StrikerSly Well-Known Member

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    Things are about to get feisty in this thread. :wink:
     
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  7. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    Criticism actually affects Brawl positively.
    Stopping it will make the quality of our staff drop, even if you want to prevent it. I understand that you are a bit younger than the majority of community, and you may not fully get the idea of criticism, but listen - pointing out flaws will get them fixed faster than not caring about them at all.
     
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  8. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    I have critiqued staff and provided solutions on many occasions.

    I appreciate that they are volunteers. That said I think the root cause is leadership to focus on the most value added tasks.
     
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  9. Cliff_92

    Cliff_92 Well-Known Member

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    Well said imo.
     
  10. Aboves

    Aboves meh

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    Criticism can be good as it points out your flaws. However, there is a difference between criticism and constructive criticism. Without criticism there is no way of knowing what you are doing right or wrong.
     
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  11. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    I'd say I agree with coders having a large workload but they have AMPLE time to do their work. 2 years for a gamemode? Oh come ON. MCPVP coded gamemodes in months. The development was lightning fast there. Now, the staff were terrible in other areas (PR) but the coding was great.
     
  12. Candicee

    Candicee Well-Known Member

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    Everything from the SMODs (including them) and down is doing their jobs just fine in my opinion. It's the devs and the admins lack of work that is causing the criticism. And for the volunteering thing, they can resign or leave at any time, but they choose to stay. So while they're here they could actually maybe do some work. With the new servers, they shouldn't announce or promise something that they are not capable of doing in the time span also announced. I believe that we appreciate staff who do their job, and a little kindness goes a long way.
     
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  13. C9_Mango

    C9_Mango Well-Known Member

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    Most staff is fine.

    Except for the developers.

    Instead of working on War 2.0 they made it so we can hear people reload in WarZ...
     
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  14. RyGuy

    RyGuy developer man

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    If Brawl was not properly obeying EULA, then the server would be taken down. The administators are also helping by contributing to War 2.0 and other new servers, which will more properly obey EULA rules
    No. Criticism hurts Brawl. Constructive criticism helps Brawl.
    And you are not helping.
    War 2.0 is a long story :v
    I can't really argue with that. I tried to find a suggestion thread, but I could not even find that. I hope it was a project done by a non-NDA developer
     
  15. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Brawl is in violation of the EULA. They are making a profit off of the game through something that is not a video.
     
  16. RyGuy

    RyGuy developer man

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    The EULA allows Brawl to make profit, but, as I said, Brawl will most likely obey the EULA much more strictly once new gamemodes are released
     
  17. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    No, it doesn't. It only allows profit via voluntary donations or cosmetic perks. I read the EULA. It's pretty vague, but it makes that clear.
     
  18. RyGuy

    RyGuy developer man

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    People do voluntarily donate, but they get a perk of something when they donate. Sometimes, you have to look for loopholes (you said or.)
     
  19. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    The EULA prohibits that. No donations that result in a gameplay changing perk is allowed.
     
  20. Andrwe

    Andrwe Well-Known Member

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    We break the rules of the EULA.
     
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