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Idea A third (togglable) chat channel, specifically designed for advertising maps to other players

Discussion in 'MinecraftBuild' started by LoremIp5um, Sep 23, 2015.

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Would you support a third optional chat channel designed for advertising maps?

  1. Yes, and set it to be ON by default

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    35.7%

  2. Yes, and set it to be OFF by default

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    21.4%

  3. No, allow one advertisement on Global

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    14.3%

  4. No, disallow public advertisements entirely but allow private advertisements (private messages etc)

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    14.3%

  5. No strong opinion either way/Undecided

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  1. LoremIp5um

    LoremIp5um Member

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    Hello! I've been playing on the server for quite a while now, and I know that general opinion is that people don't like others advertising their maps on the server. In my opinion, advertising maps itself isn't bad, just the spamming of advertising maps. I don't feel it's fair people get punished for advertising their maps. I feel like not being able to advertise is rather unfair, as it seems like even though you can build whatever you want on this server, you can't invite people to check it out. After all, quite a few people want to check out cool buildings and play in games hosted by other players! I don't want people to feel like "I built something really cool but I can't show it off to other people on the server" or "I can't invite people on the server to my game I made".

    However, using Global is currently the only way to advertise maps to other people on the server. This leads to some people spamming the chat. This then brings up a situation where people are discouraged from advertising their maps in fear they might be seen as spamming other players and annoying them. I believe that spam should be stopped but advertising maps should be allowed if controlled.

    Which is why I'm suggesting a third chat channel specifically for advertising! This chat would be togglable, so people who do not want to see advertisements for maps can turn it off and do what they're doing on the server and not have to worry about seeing them. Sending a message via this channel would turn it on if you had set it to be off. Having the third chat channel would take a lot (hopefully all when people get used to the change) of the advertisers out of Global and into a chat where people who want to see advertisements can see.

    One issue for this would be that this could get spammed like Global chat does. To prevent this, a limit on messages per a set amount of time could be set, for example 1 message every 2 minutes or 3 messages every 5 minutes (feel free to make harsher if necessary). If a player uses up all their messages within the time limit, they will be muted from the advertising channel until the time limit is over. If they then try and use the Global chat to advertise, they should be treated as a spammer would (ideally it would be visible to others that they've used the advertising channel). Another issue is people who are unaware of the advertising channel using Global chat. To prevent this, players should be made aware of the advertising channel, mods and/or players should redirect them to use the advertising channel if they use Global once, if they continue to use Global and not the advertising channel then treat them like spammers.

    Thank you for reading this! Please take this into consideration and I'll try to answer any questions you may have :smile:
     
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    #1 LoremIp5um, Sep 23, 2015
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  2. Compositions

    Compositions Well-Known Member

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    I personally really like this idea. Usually Build chat is filled with players advertising their maps, and this would be a great way to make sure that the players annoyed by this aren't annoyed.

    The only way I see one contradicting this is that you could just turn off chat, but then you don't have access to WorldEdit.

    You've got my +1, and I'd say for it to start off on.
     
    #2 Compositions, Sep 23, 2015
  3. Xavier1974

    Xavier1974 I cream scarecrows

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    Wouldn't advertising your map technically be advertising? Can't you get banned for that? Even if it's Brawl related it.

    Good idea! +1
     
    #3 Xavier1974, Sep 23, 2015
  4. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    If advertising a map you get a mute I think according to build rules.
     
    #4 Daveeeeeeeee, Sep 23, 2015
  5. Compositions

    Compositions Well-Known Member

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    You are currently only allowed to advertise your map in the lobby.
     
    #5 Compositions, Sep 23, 2015
  6. Xavier1974

    Xavier1974 I cream scarecrows

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    If it happens more than twice than I think you receive a temp-perm ban

    Is this to avoid people teleporting?
     
    #6 Xavier1974, Sep 23, 2015
  7. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    It's to avoid spam
     
    #7 Daveeeeeeeee, Sep 23, 2015
  8. Compositions

    Compositions Well-Known Member

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    No, it's too make sure that you aren't spamming and advertising and such on Build, as you may be muted for it.
     
    #8 Compositions, Sep 23, 2015
  9. NickManEA

    NickManEA Build JMOD

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    Sounds Great
     
    #9 NickManEA, Sep 23, 2015
  10. Andrwe

    Andrwe Well-Known Member

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    This is a really neat idea, maybe there could be a command to send something in chat and you click it to go to the map :grinning:.
     
    #10 Andrwe, Sep 23, 2015
  11. LoremIp5um

    LoremIp5um Member

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    I like that idea! :grinning:
     
    #11 LoremIp5um, Sep 23, 2015
  12. Intincrui

    Intincrui Well-Known Member

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    Adverting maps in the lobby is allowed, just not in a mini-games server.
     
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    #12 Intincrui, Sep 23, 2015
  13. GetShadowRealmed

    GetShadowRealmed What do I put here

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    I really like this idea. +1 from me.
     
    #13 GetShadowRealmed, Sep 23, 2015
  14. BlueGuyARed

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    Even if this was added, people would still abuse chat advertising maps, not needed imo
     
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    #14 BlueGuyARed, Sep 23, 2015
  15. Doges

    Doges Ex-Mod, Ex-Builder

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    If people don't want to follow rules of not spamming in the global chat, why would they want to follow this rule?
     
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    #15 Doges, Sep 25, 2015
  16. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Would have to agree with this, this sounds pretty innovative but there can easily be ways around it. And plus, this isn't really "ADVERTISE MAPS AND DO PARTIES". Even though that's what half the server does, it's pretty self-exclamatory, it's called Build for a reason. You build stuff, even if there are FNAF maps or Skin Contests, that's not really the point, so the coders shouldn't dedicate their time coding (even if it's simple) something that doesn't even match the theme for the server. These things are just something the community made up, so they should make their own ideas, it shouldn't have to interfere with the official server. If they want to have Skin Contests, sure (even though I find it annoying of why you do that on a BUILD server), but no advertising is needed, just grab some friends. And if you can't, you can just say it once or twice in the chat, that's enough.
     
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    #16 MrWaffleman, Sep 25, 2015
  17. NateTheDerp

    NateTheDerp Well-Known Member

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    There is a rule to not spamvertise. So don't advertise more than once. If nobody comes the first time, chances are they won't come the second time.
     
    #17 NateTheDerp, Sep 29, 2015
  18. dkalaxdk

    dkalaxdk Member

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    I could get behind this idea, the fact that you can toggle if you wan't to see others maps. It would be so nice being able to do this. Especially as there often are no mods on the build server(In my playtime) Which makes it easy to spamvertise.
    I do think this should be turned on by default, or else noone would ever see it, and it would ruins some of the community perspective of the server.
     
    #18 dkalaxdk, Oct 6, 2015
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