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WarZ Community Discussion - How bad can it really be?

Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by AcpSoldier, Oct 29, 2015.

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  1. AcpSoldier

    AcpSoldier Well-Known Member

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    Hi, I just got back on the McBrawl forums a few days ago and need to get caught up on the current opinion of the WarZ players. Topic: Why do you think the community is bad, and how bad is it really?

    I'll share my opinion first. Ever since me and KAD quit WarZ like a year ago, we've mostly been playing CS:GO. For anyone that doesn't play CS or has never solo-queued, you know that the community is pretty awful. Example below.

    This is obviously because CS:GO has a much larger community. The larger the community, the harder it is to manage, right? Then why is the community so bad on WarZ? The community here at McBrawl is much smaller and should be much easier to manage. I haven't played in a year - so remind me if I'm wrong, but WarZ has the worst community among the servers. Some people say WarZ has a poor community because of DDOS attackers, some people say it's the staff's fault. I partially agree to both, but I think the biggest problem resides in the actual game. I personally think it's because WarZ is full of overly-competitive players. This makes no sense to me because Mc-WarZ was based off DayZ: a zombie survival game. Mc-WarZ is anything but a survival game. I'd say it's 99% PvP based and 1% survival based. That's why we have such crap players in WarZ. They are here to PvP and kill every player in sight. The %1 survival based part of this game sucks pretty bad, and isn't attracting enough of the players who like surving. What we needed was a good balance of PvP players and survival players. Imagine how awesome that would have been. I used past tense because it's already over. The community was ruined and the players have no power to change the actual game. So how bad is it? Not as bad as some game communities (Like CSGO). It's obviously still fun to play. Fun for some people that is. So can the community be fixed? I think so, but the game needs to be updated. If you can't change the players, change the game. WarZ obviously needs PvP based players to stay fun, but there's way too many and it's ruining everything. We need to start attracting survival based players to balance things out.

    TLDR: I think the large amount of overly-competitive players ruined the community. There wasn't a good survival aspect of the game, so it only attracted PvP players who like to compete. Can it be fixed? Yes. Will it be fixed? No.

    I am really looking forward to reading why you think WarZ's community was ruined, and how you think it could be fixed.

    - AcpSoldier

    For people that need to cleanse their ears after listening to the CSGO video.
     
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  2. Kelsang

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    I think it is because people don't really care much about "a block game".
     
  3. Aboves

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    War is hard to manage because of the amount of mods we have. Really, only Jayden, Ritzy, Halo, Eso, and I frequent WarZ. Many issues derived from things like DDoS, which can give advantages in certain situations. These things make it hard to monitor and moderate WarZ.
     
  4. AcpSoldier

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    I'm sure it does, but what do you think ruined WarZ?
     
  5. Piky

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    I do agree that competitive has made WarZ less enjoyable, but lets down to the smaller details. What causes this to be so competitive? The chance to get diamond is very low, you rely on your entire friends to help you out, you rely too much on combo'ing and the stats make it so fast pace and not surviving of zombies, more of PvP with guns and some zombies to piss you off.
     
  6. Aboves

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    That. People start with smack talk, which is fine, but then they take it too far. Then there become arguments that last a lifetime, and grudges that hold forever.
     
  7. AcpSoldier

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    Hmm. Can you go into it a bit deeper? Why do you think the WarZ are like this? Would you agree that most players are overly-competitive?
     
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    I do agree, most people are overly competitive. However, there is something about WarZ that just... Changes people. I have seen good friends change from WarZ. In negative ways. All it takes is a few people. Take the CoD community. The game frustrates you, like if you keep dying. People get angry and take their rage out on others. This then angers the people targeted, and involves others in this pointlessly bickering. Instead of dropping it though, people never let go. More people are angered by dying, and more people anger others with their arguments and insults.
    The part that makes it the worst is that the community has evolved into thinking that staff are like super humans, and can do what they want, and don't care if they are insulting. The root of the problem is that people and players don't care about what the staff say.
    Tl;dr: The community is corrupted because people get angry too easily, and then many do not listen to staff when they try to intervene.
     
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  9. Piky

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    The things people will do for pixels is beyond me..
    I stated above what could be the cause. But let me go into further detail.
    ~Lack of creativity in zombies (probably limited with orange's coding)
    ~Combos, when they were found out, it ruined the actual survival and meant we could just tap a full diamond in a millisecond.
    ~The way how salty the community gets when they die over pixels.
    ~Not a lot of variety of guns & counter play.
    ~No team-limit/friendly-fire
    Just a lot of these happen, when combos first came to be, it made WarZ more competitive due to combos completely destroying anything so quickly. Teams began to grow because no-one can actually 1v1 without them having to get around 5 people to take out 1/4 or 2/4 diamond.
    There's a lot more things that cause the community to be more salty than a ocean of salt.
     
  10. AcpSoldier

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    Thanks for replying. Yeah, there wasn't much entity customizing available in Bukkit when WarZ was made. But now there are so many options to make zombies more creative. Changing the speeds, sounds, armor and attack patterns of the zombies would really add to the survival aspect of WarZ. Just about every feature in WarZ is heavily outdated and doesn't take advantage of new features added in Minecraft.

    Honestly though, we can't expect the devs to actively update the game when they aren't even getting paid. I was going to apply but not while the devs are basically treated as slaves.

    Edit: Apparently all the devs get paid, my bad. Now there's really no excuse for not updating WarZ. They probably only get paid per-plugin/feature which probably isn't worth the work.
     
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  11. SoMuchWinning

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    Our community grew toxic thanks to how rage-inducing WarZ truly is.
    People take it too far though.

    You can't change it, plus Brawl generates immense profit, thus keeping the server running. They have no particular reason to make changes, despite being suggested.


    HOW TO FIX:
    Make ammo and weapons almost impossible to find. Then say goodbye to 90-man teams.
     
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  12. PumkinLp

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    Can i write an ip below its an other dayz server in minecraft and if you guys wanna check the difference of this server and brawl i xan write it


    Jonnypvp and me were looting 2 full geard enemys just cane to us and killed jonny cuz he attacked them then they wrote they were peacfull and ran away so we had our stuff still and the map is much larger that the acctually warz map and on many different "zones" is good loot and zombies are better managed as well


    ~PumkinLp
     
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    You can private message people the ip, but please do not publicly posts it on or in a thread.
     
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    because ppl b salty af /s/

    wtf lol? did you mean say bye to warz?
     
  15. rmure

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    We could also fix it with my dumb idea of killing and banning anyone who insults.
     
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  16. PumkinLp

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    no no thats not that what i meant to say ... i don't promote this server !!! its just like to see the comunnity differenced and the "real dayz" style
     
  17. SoMuchWinning

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    The server was misguided/built without balance or features in the mind from the beginning.
     
  18. jakob112

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    In my opinion the community isnt **** because of the "pvp" factor. I was amazed the other day when one of my friends told me to come on mineplex to play a game of minestrike (CS-GO based server). Its 100% pvp i would say. No one abselutely no one was disrespectful in chat, called haxks or anything like that. I think warz's commnunity is **** BECAUSE of the survival factor. In may or may not sound stupid to you, but hear me out. WarZ is all about surviving against enemies. When you loose a fight and die you loose all ur stuff, which ofcourse is frustrating, because you have worked hard for it. BUT thats also what makes the game fun! You got the adrenaline pumping, you concentrate and get really happy when you win! Its like playing a game of poker. Theres always a chance you will loose, but also a chance of winning. Thats what makes the game so fun and so frustrating from time to time. The game simply isnt fun if theres nothing to loose, but when you loose people get mad, but when you dont, you get really happy. Thats how it works, if theres nothing to loose, theres nothing to gain either. Simple.
     
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  19. GlobalistCuck

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    Best analogy 2015.

    To be honest, WarZ is kinda screwed in the way it was designed, it has always been, it always will be. We should just tag along for the ride until it gets too rocky to handle.
     
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  20. ObamaTheReptile

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    WHAT RANK IS THE KAD CREW I THOUGHT YOU GUYS LIKE DIED
     
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