KitPvP Mods

This thread is the argumentation of “Why can’t we have KitPvP mods”, I can explain a good amount of reasons of why need these kind of people to be in this atmosphere. There are lots of things I can say, so I will say things in random order with no kind of organization.

The Community of KitPvP​

First of all, I’m guessing one of the many things staff will say is that, “KitPvP is in no need of moderation and is good by itself.” I can object to this for many reasons. For many years (by that I mean like 2 :v), KitPvP has been sort of a “Chill server” with no real type of specific people. But as the months pass, KitPvP starts to get it’s own community, it may be strange to think of a community being grown out of a server who has only like 30-50 people on it, and not an organized game mode with events. But rather a gamemode where you can 1v1 people and go into an arena. There are many arguments that I can say to how, KitPvP has a real community.


A community is a place… well just to be lazy I’ll copy and paste the two definitions of community. “a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common.” also “a feeling of fellowship with others, as a result of sharing common attitudes, interests, and goals.” this is pretty much the definition of KitPvP. Amidst all the staff coding this server, making it a kind of practice server (where I learned how to be a professional souper :v) with no real goal of forming a group of people. It has been developing a real community in places where people may not suspect.


Well, some basic psychology for you: basically everyone wants to feel like they’re better than the rest, some people may not think this, but it’s true for the majority. When you think about it, KitPvP is basically like that, in KitPvP, there are kits, so you can’t really lose your equipment just like in Survival PvP. With people mostly playing in the same kit (Melee) it provides a very fair atmosphere, even in the arena. Even if they think it isn’t fair they can do 1v1s. These fights can potentially show who’s better than who in PvP, people brag about lots of things. Such as highest killstreak, best KDR, best ELO, and much more. This provides a competitive atmosphere, but… coincidence I think not, doesn’t War basically hold most of Brawl’s community? All of the old peeps and stuff. Guess what, everyone wants to half a huge killstreak, KDR is a big factor in whether you can get in a clan or not. Similarities my good people, similarities…


Like I said, “basically everyone wants to feel like they’re better than the rest, some people may not think this, but it’s true for the majority.” I say majority. Another definition of community, is in an ecosystem. In this there are many species of animals mingling together in a single community. Just like this KitPvP is composed of many different people. The competitive people who want to dominate, or the quiet people who want to hang out and team, or perhaps the people who just want to practice souping, there are endless possibilities. With this, there’s no specific goal of playing, that’s a community, there isn’t like a Game Over or You win! It goes on forever, you have 2000 ELO? Good job now go for 3000 ELO, it’s a type of game with no limitations where people can socialize and have fun.


How this contributes to my rant? Because all these big communities, War, WarZ, Survival PvP, they ALL have mods. Then what is the reason we can’t have mods on KitPvP? These reasons that I just stated perfectly prove the existence of the true community in KitPvP. And every community needs staff, needs someone to guide them to the path that’s right. In no way that I’m saying that KitPvP has a trash community, it actually has a pretty nice community compared to all of the others. Do you want to know why? The real reason of this? The veteran players, these players who dedicate all their time on there, to report those hackers, to guide the people, these people earn more than what they are doing right now. Just think of the possibilities, if these good people were given the ranking of moderation. They could better maintain the community, and be respected, so that everyone else can follow in that person’s path. Also, these moderators help shape the community, help develop the community. Make it an advanced community with many different people, all unique in their own aspects.

The Real Need for Moderation​

Another type of staff may respond to this thread “KitPvP already has mods”, from that I mean mods who don’t moderator just KitPvP but other servers who have time to come to KitPvP. The thing is, these moderators are FROM OTHER SERVERS. KitPvP basically has the servers 3rd smallest community, many people very much ignore it. And most of the ‘big people’ on Brawl aren’t from KitPvP (if you say I am then I’m blushing ), to be honest, not very many people care about KitPvP. The development of KitPvP is very slow, and very few updates have been performed, it isn’t that much of a great gamemode, but it still has a decent community.


By that I don’t mean perfect. I’m sure MANY of you understand the situation of KitPvP before the Ban Hammer came, hundreds stacked over hundreds of hackers. It was a hacker FARM, I even went there to come to winning like 3 hacker report contests in a row, it was filled to the brim with hackers. Where were the large expanse of mods? Nowhere to be seen, please take in note I say large expanse. I really respect the moderators now who have time to come here and moderate, and the moderators that came to moderate before, I had a good experience banning hackers with moderators like bassmaster6, SpeedBreaker, Birdgirl, JaydenChadd, and many more I haven’t included. But these mods, have servers of their own, communities that need them, do you expect them to come to these servers and maintain hackers on both communities? It’s hard to go to both communities and perform these actions.


By now /report has been used efficiently, although not many people do it. Mods have to drag their Ban Hammer with them (har har) whenever they go there, hard to jump around servers. Having a group of moderators already in KitPvP would prove to be much better.


This is something that would probably shut my whole entire topic down… which I kind of facepalmed at… before, I noticed that Ashlyn was a KitPvP mod, the first one. This kind of confused me, but I went along with it. Now I see that Poskeharen our old staff member applied again and got the position of KitPvP moderator as well. Also Algelier is KitPvP mod… what is the real reasoning behind this? Unlike Algelier, Poskeharen is solely the moderator of KitPvP, not any other server… Ashlyn was the moderator for Survival PvP. This got kind of weird all a sudden, right now you can choose which server you can apply for, and KitPvP isn’t even on that list. I’m guessing @poskeharen went for War Moderator again, but what exactly stopped him from getting that position? I would like to hear more from that.

Conclusion​

I had more to write about but then I suddenly forgot about it, so I’ll go ahead and skip right to the conclusion. I believe that KitPvP is in need of mods, there are plenty of good people out there who are suited for the position. They are simply just in the dark and because of no application for getting KitPvP mod, they stay in the dark. I guess you could say I made this thread so I could apply for KitPvP mod (which honestly is partially true :v), but there have been other people who wished to apply for KitPvP mod. I hope the staff take this into consideration.


Lastly thanks @soccerstars, inspiration to make dis thread.

 

Thank you , I'm aware that JMods can't ban, but there are way more things that they can do. THANKS FOR REMINDING ME, that's the thing I forgot to write about. There are a bunch of people on KitPvP who spam/advertise/flame. Like I said, the lack of mods, and the community carving it's own way can sometimes lead to a disastrous result. There are even some glitches that are being abused, there are many reasons moderators are needed rather than just banning.

 

I replied to Stake that there are reasons other than just banning hackers. Kicking for glitches being abused, muting people, and more. I believe that moderating does not mean eliminating hackers at all, that's just a small piece in the puzzle of a greater picture. Think of the many other things mods do in servers. They can be friendly to gamers, they inform players about things if they are in need (usually these inexperienced players get majorly ignored), they can stop fights from occurring (these things happen in chat, but they aren't necessarily breaking the rules, but rather interrupting the playing environment), and like I said guide the community. For these things you cannot simply say /report, there are many situations in which mods from other servers can't always be there. KitPvP would be better off with their own moderators, their independence (I'm making this sound patriotic am I not...), where they aren't just moderated by moderators of other servers. I think that poskeharen is doing a pretty well job as a moderator in KitPvP, and that he's pretty busy to be honest.

 

Building on... there's a secret weapon (not so secret)... KIT HIDDEN :v. Anyone can catch hackers in that kit.

 

Another thingy to support my cause, this time Anti Cheat. For those of you who haven't noticed, BrawlBot has been taken off of Survival PvP due to the complaints and such. What is the reason? Many reasons, it ruins the PvP aspect with an invisible guy blocking most of the hits, and autobanning can prove to be really annoying when good PvPers fight. Well, isn't it the same scenario on KitPvP? Everyday, extremely good and bad PvPers are being banned on KitPvP, this sees the rise of more complaints. It's outrageous that half of the time the hacker doesn't get banned, but rather the innocent.

Well, why is the reason BrawlBot hasn't been taken off of KitPvP, an assumption that I have confidence in, and I'm sure many have confidence in is that KitPvP has a BUNCH of hackers. Now listen, I've been doing a research paper (I might even post my findings some day) on the increase of hackers mainly on KitPvP. Since BrawlBot has been introduced, my research has literally crumbled (since so many hackers were being banned left to right, my graphs were really fluctuating). So, in this aspect BrawlBot is very helpful for the removal of hackers, removing would be insane? But why are more than half the players banned innocent? Isn't it worth the risk to just remove it entirely? This would improve PvP and easen up the community with false bans.

And yes, you've guessed it, it's where JMods kick in. The small servers can be a hassle, with the amount of hackers. It balances it out when there's a big server with less hackers, KitPvP deserves to have JMods. Just as JMods deserve to have a community to moderate over and half a good time with .