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Raising forums activity requirement for moderators.

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by SoMuchWinning, Nov 10, 2015.

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Should we finally start paying more attention to the forums activity.

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  1. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    Now, before calling me out and criticizing me for whatever fallacy you can come up with, listen here - I have nothing against our staff or the current system.
    However, I don't believe that a person with 30-150 posts would make a better staff member on forums than someone with 300+ messages.
    Now, I know that you still judge the forums activity, but not as much.
    Why don't we bring it back into the play?
    I'd suggest raising the minimum post requirement back to 300. This was the old requirement and it is perfect since you can get to know the person better. It would delay tryhards.

    Benefits:
    -Our moderators would have more knowledge and experience on the forums.
    -They would be better prepared with various different situations.
    -These people would also be better conditioned to interract and communicate with other people.
    -The staff would also know these people much better by judging their posts.
    -Also, our staff would have a better understanding of our forums.

    Cons:
    -People crying due to their inability to post 300 messages (in comparison, I have done that 20 times. wow! It's possible!)
    -People complaining that quantity doesn't matter. YES IT DOES MATTER.
    -Many people with low post count disagreeing with me due to them trying to discount mod or mods with low post count disagreeing.

    TL;DR
    Start posting for once instead of pretending be active on our forums when you really aren't. I'm doing all this because we want to know you better. And the only way to do so on forums is by posting.
     
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  2. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    I don't feel like this would be a good addition again because one of the best moderator candidates could be someone who only posts when needed.

    There are multiple people that spam the forums with stuff that was already said just to get their forum posts up.

    Quality over quantity. I'd rather see people only posting when someone needs help or when there's an argument going on be our staff member, than a staff member that posts on anything just to have their forum count higher up.
     
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  3. marcel18167

    marcel18167 Well-Known Member

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    Well I think that the forums should not matter at all, after all this is a minecraft server, so mc activity comes first.
    If they would raise the forums post count, people would spam to get to the 300 posts.
    The forum is good and all but look at it like this:
    There are already alot of experinced players on the forum, so if someone has a questing, most of the time a normal player replys faster then a mod. So the mods are not needed here.


    Now let me look at your "Benefits":

    "-Our moderators would have more knowledge and experience on the forums."
    Well sure that is correct, but do they really need that knowledge or the experince? That is like saying: well to be a mod you need to know everything about ts3.

    "-They would be better prepared with various different situations."
    Can you give me an example? What kind of situation? I am a war player, and at the war section nothing special gets posted at all, only people braging about their stats or saying that they died on a 20ks.

    "-These people would also be better conditioned to interract and communicate with other people."
    Well that is true but that's why we have a ts3 server right?

    "-The staff would also know these people much better by judging their posts."
    A player can make the best posts on the forums, but can be the worst mod ingame.

    "-Also, our staff would have a better understanding of our forums."
    That's number one in another sentence.
     
  4. ExpertZJP

    ExpertZJP SG Player at Heart

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    I don't agree with the 300 post minimal. In my opinion the current standards of active should be raised than what it is, but I think 150-200+ -ish is a good number to apply in. Ive seen many mods with less than 200 posts become accepted and have become fabulous additions. I feel as though the forums activity doesn't really affect someones ability to interact with the community like you say. I believe that maturity, teamspeak3, and in-game activity affect this aspect.
     
  5. aoltype

    aoltype Active Member

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    I do agree. We talked about this on teamspeak. However, I also agree with Spooky. People will just start spamming.

    However, that will be noticed. Staff will just have to look at the applying player's last posts.
     
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  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    What if a staff member doesn't enjoy going on forums for a block game? I only go on the forums when I have nothing to do (or during a bloody power cut 18 hours into Fallout 4 - I'm on my laptop), and I can't blame people who dislike this.

    If they want to be a staff member in-game, they shouldn't need to be active on the forums. It'd help if they knew enough about the forums, but honestly it doesn't matter.
     
  7. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman

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    I think when applying for mod you should have atleast 500 posts. I'm still staying on marcel's side: Mc comes 1st.
     
  8. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    500 posts? You on crack?
     
  9. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman

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    500 posts is only about a month of work if you check the server you want to apply mod for on the forums and press "new posts" every time you're online, 3 times a day.
     
  10. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    That's basically spamming the forums. Mods should post when needed, not just for forum posts.
     
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  11. ExpertZJP

    ExpertZJP SG Player at Heart

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    ^^^ This leaves a better impression from applicants. I'd much rather see quality over quantity
     
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  12. Doges

    Doges Ex-Mod, Ex-Builder

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    Teamspeak is the main way to get to know people better, not the forums. Although both can provide a decent image of a person, I'd need to see around 1,000+ forum posts to describe who the person is, where as I can talk to someone for 5-10 minutes and already get a good picture of who a user is.
     
  13. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    I'm a huge supporter of high forums activity. I always have been. Just take a look at my responses to mod apps in the past, and you'll probably see me focus on it a lot. That being said, I think that a 300 post requirement creates more problems than it does benefits. I don't think the requirement is necessary. I trust the staff's judgement when it comes to deciding whether or not someone is not active enough on the forums. Sometimes, the applicant's forum activity might be lacking, but the applicant is very strong in other areas, and makes up for it. Other times, the forum section of the server that the applicant is applying for are new or dead. Also, this requirement has lead to numerous people spam-posting to get mod in the past, when it is really more about quality than quantity. Additionally, one of our best staff members got mod with around 80 posts. @Cuddled :V I think things are fine how they are.
     
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  14. GlobalistCuck

    GlobalistCuck Well-Known Member

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    I don't think a 300 post requirement would be a good idea... It all depends on the applicant. There are a variety of factors that determine whether or not someone gets accepted, denying someone because they have 290 posts would not be a good way to choose our staff members. As far as I know, there's no minimum number of hours someone needs to spend on Teamspeak or in-game.

    Also, I'd like to see people posting because they want to post. My reasons to post are to make a joke, to give an opinion, or to perhaps give some advice or suggest an idea. If someone is posting "good luck!" on every Team/Clan thread just to raise their post count, this person is not moderator material. I'm not saying forums activity isn't important for a moderator, but you can't place a numerical requirement on it. It's just not that black and white.

    P.S. I think the poll on this thread is not suited to the topic.. The options are whether the forums matter or not, but the real question is whether there should be a post requirement. Of course the forums matter, but I'm pretty sure that is beside the point.
     
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  15. Viva

    Viva Well-Known Member

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    I mean, the 300 post minimum is really just a suggestion. You can be a fantastic person and a good candidate for moderator if you only have around 100 posts, it just depends on whether you are visibly putting thought and effort into them. Quality > Quantity. I always saw the forums as more of an opportunity to discuss ideas and help other players out.
     
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  16. BlueGuyARed

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    Some of the best moderators I've known haven't had one forum post. Anyone can post a lot on the forums, and seem helpful, but that doesn't mean they'll make a good mod. A lot of mods also, check the forums, but not post on it.
     
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  17. RMST1

    RMST1 Ex-Mod I WarZ Noob

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    1. Posting a lot doesn't always mean posting useless posts, but sometimes jokes on the forums are welcomed.
    2. Mods would be more helpful if they post very helpful replies/posts. With checking the forums and not responding to it, even if people need help, isn't a good sign.
    But I agree with you, don't worry :wink:
     
  18. Lung

    Lung Well-Known Member

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    Quality over quantity... Someone could have 1000 posts that were all from post farming.
     
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  19. RMST1

    RMST1 Ex-Mod I WarZ Noob

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    Staff can always check that, even we as members can.

    I still think, against everyone his opinion, that forums activity could be required. When a player has over 700/800 messages, staff can check if the person posts helpful/useful posts and not only postfarming in the outro/intro with messages like: Hi, welcome, PM me for any questions. Or: Bye, sad to see you go. These messages might be well meant, but we can still consider it as post farming

    I don't feel like really going in against everyone, so in my opinion forums requirement doesn't have to be there, but people with over 500/1000 messages with helpful posts should get some + points.
    ~RMST1
     
  20. RMST1

    RMST1 Ex-Mod I WarZ Noob

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    Staff can always check that, even we as members can.

    I still think, against everyone his opinion, that forums activity could be required. When a player has over 700/800 messages, staff can check if the person posts helpful/useful posts and not only postfarming in the outro/intro with messages like: Hi, welcome, PM me for any questions. Or: Bye, sad to see you go. These messages might be well meant, but we can still consider it as post farming

    I don't feel like really going in against everyone, so in my opinion forums requirement doesn't have to be there, but people with over 500/1000 messages with helpful posts should get some + points.
    ~RMST1
     
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