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Discussion in 'Discussion' started by Candicee, Dec 22, 2015.

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  1. Candicee

    Candicee Well-Known Member

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    Please don't move this to the suggestions section, as it isn't a suggestion, it's more of a reminder.

    I think we can all agree that FPS HG was one of the best servers around, and that there is a high demand to bring it back. It's been forever since it was removed, and I think it's about time it made it's re-appearance. At this point we'll settle for the original, or v.2 ( although the original is a lot better :3 ).

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. InfiniSTistus

    InfiniSTistus I´m Rock´s mommy

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    Yes I would LOOOOVE to get it back, Why was it even removed? I think It was bcuz of sgg right?
    I loved it so much It was way more unique than the rest of the Hgs, But the only thing that disturbed me was That only staff could use the donor kits not even donors could use them.

    For all the peaple who are new and whasent around when It was here:


    Edit: I remember now why It whas removed xD
    lol
     
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  3. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    FPSHG was hands down my favorite gamemode aside from WarZ. I had a bunch of great times on it, and when it got removed, I actually got really upset. @Wario and I use to go on there and play while our team was playing WarZ, and sometimes they'd get pissed at us because we weren't helping them. That didn't bother us though, the gamemode was just so much fun..

    I'd love to see a re-appearance of FPSHG, and I agree with you. The original would be a lot better than a V2, obviously as long as they fix the bugs.
     
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  4. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    If Brawl doesn't bring FPS HG back, it really will prove that they don't care about the community. I've never played FPS HG and honestly I probably won't play it if they add it again but its clear to anyone with eyes that people who did play it loved it. They then replaced it with SG with guns, and some people liked that but not everyone. Then they remove SG with guns and anyone who really liked FPS HG has nothing similar to FPS HG that they'll actually like.

    It makes no sense for Brawl to not add FPS HG back, but its pretty obvious now that they're never going to add it back again.
     
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  5. StrikerSly

    StrikerSly Well-Known Member

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    They honestly need to bring it back. I didn't like SGG. FPS HG was unique and really fun, very different from normal HG
     
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  6. Chopo

    Chopo Well-Known Member

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    Yes x10. Here's another video for those of you who aren't familiar with the server.

    I'm not really sure why they took fpshg down, but I'm pretty sure that reason could be fixed.
     
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  7. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    I'll put the videos I recorded on unlisted and link them here as well.

    EDIT: Nevermind, I only recorded on SGG ;-;
     
  8. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    I very much liked fpsHG, used to be my favorite gamemode. But as bugs broke out, and infestations rose (har har the puns), it had to be removed. Because of how bad it was performing during the times of the glitches and bugs it just had to be removed, I'm guessing the coders were sensing the players' disappointment. So they probably wanted to fix that by introducing SG SSG, even though they wouldn't live up to the expectations of fpsHG. But even those gamemodes died out because of bugs and glitches. I would wish that the gamemode is brought back even though it may take a while, I'm guessing it's not a very big priority, but I'm sure it would be benefitting for Brawl if it were to be added back.

    Like I stated it's because of the bugs and glitches, fpsHG was even worse than Skywars 2.0 in Beta stage when coming to the amount of problems. I wasn't staff at the time, so I don't know that much. But I'm sure the staff didn't enjoy replacing fpsHG with SSG, but I guess that was all they could do.

    I heard that the kits were kind of glitchy, and that they were planning to give it to donors, don't know what happened to that though.

    Well, that doesn't make much sense because with all these threads and people talking about fpsHG, I really doubt that the Coders/Admins say "ah, they liked fpsHG, I guess we don't have to bring it back because we don't want to". Remember that the coders and admins are the ones who actually MADE fpsHG, it would equally disappoint them to see that their project has gone to waste. Especially since Myortyve is no longer a Developer, and he was the one who made fpsHG. You need to be understanding about other things as well, such as the limiting factors of the release of fpsHG. What if they can't fix the bugs? What if the project is no longer available and it must be recoded because of Myort's disappearance? You have to put these into play as well before blaming Brawl.

    SG, SSG, and fpsHG were all removed because of bugs and glitches. You can tell from this that bringing back fpsHG is not going to be easy, but even I would like fpsHG to come back, but the community and I have to understand that it will take time and effort to bring it back.

    Taken down by the swarm of bugs :c.
     
  9. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Things like this has already happened on other gamemodes.
    xxxxdead is no longer a Developer, and he was the one who made CTF. defek7 is no longer a Developer, and he was the one who made HG. Yet we still have CTF and HG now, despite all the bugs and glitches. Just get another coder to do it.
    I play on a server which got about 1000 players average that, 2 years ago, promised an update... pretty much a v2 of their entire server. They promised it'd be out within a couple months, but failed to meet that deadline. This is because they encountered a sh*t ton of problems with the map, the code, and staff resigned caused the project to keep on being pushed back. No, I'm not talking about Brawl, I'm talking about a completely different server which, 2 days ago, released this update, tripling their player count.

    If Brawl's just going to give up at any hurdle they encounter, I have every right to blame Brawl.
     
  10. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Please state the gamemodes. Even if the gamemode was taken down and the coders decide not to bring it back, think of what I said, they are the ones that coded it. They wouldn't want a project like that taken down, it isn't easy developing gamemodes.

    You're right on another coder handling the responsibility. But currently fpsHG is not a big server. It was handled as a small project, but the community liked it. Even when it's removed, the community is just doing fine. They tried to replace it with SG and SSG, even those failed. That's around 3 hurdles, although it can be arguable that they could just keep on going and try to fix it. But is it really worth it? To spend so much time on a little server? I would like for fpsHG to come back, but there's more projects that are much more important. The coders are finally working on 2.0 again, that's been wanted a lot more than fpsHG, do you expect them to leave 2.0 and go to fpsHG? The Admins/Coders have priorities, and they need to finish the things they wanted to do first. This is how I see it:

    Myortyve decided to code fpsHG, that's done. Then the whole drama of fpsHG, SG, and SSG failing happens. Myort soon resigns, then the other coders who have their own responsibilities and thing they've been coding realize that the community really wants fpsHG back. fpsHG was already quite the fail in terms of development, it literally fell apart. It will take much time to repair all of that, but think of it. Is it really worth it? You shouldn't just think about 'giving up', but also the value of continueing the development. Which one is more valuable: Finishing Beta Skywars, working on 2.0, finishing Beta HG, completing Wild West. Or rather fpsHG? The staff have to weigh the scales on this, they have paid a price too. They have the burden of a community wanting fpsHG back, when they know they can't have it anytime soon. Putting more pressure on them to bring it back can't really do anything but slow the progression of other servers and such.

    You're talking about a V2 of the server (I think I know what you're talking about, I've played on that server), right now we're talking about a small server which some of the community liked. There's a whole difference. On top of that, the coders have made NO promises (as far as I know) of the revival of fpsHG. There isn't really a hype being built up, yearning for the comeback of fpsHG. It's just wanted. Also, we're talking about BRINGING BACK fpsHG. If they bring it back, there won't be any new flashy features. It's just the good old fpsHG, you have to measure how much the player count was like when fpsHG was around, and how it was now. Not much of a difference honestly.

    I've already talked about the hurdle, so I'll finish it here.
     
  11. 18kss

    18kss All is within

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    Glad to see you guys are still trying to get the dream back :smile:

    I'd really love to see it come back. All we need to do to make it successful is activate the donor kits.
     
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  12. CapzMC

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    I loved the server, I would love to see it back as @18kss said.
     
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  13. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Its almost 1am and I'm hearing of an attack on PSN, Xbox Live, Steam and Mojang servers over Xmas and its much more interesting, so I'm just gonna make a point on this for now.

    Skywars and HG are playable so getting them out of beta shouldn't be a huge concern. Wild West could be important if the community wants it, but honestly I have no idea. 2.0 is very important because its been promised multiple times for 2 years, and each time it led to the community's disappointment, so 2.0 is probably more important. But that doesn't matter, there's a lot of coders and everything you listed (apart from maybe Skywars and HG) are very important. Wild West has been promised, 2.0 has been promised for years, and fpsHG is so popular and now even its replacement is gone. They're all important enough to be worked on, and with the amount of coders Brawl has, they can all be worked on at the same time.
     
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  14. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Then I figured out Brawl doesn't have the code for fpsHG anymore. Making it a whole lot harder to make it like the original...
     
  15. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    It doesn't need to be exactly like the original. As long as the concept is the same, and it has all the features that made fpsHG loved by the community, it'll be good enough.
     
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  16. Chopo

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    Actually, small problem there. Brittan coded fpsHG. :v
     
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  17. soccerstars

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    I'll trade in my life again for fpsHG. Bring back the old crew @18kss @randomcitizen1 and crazybombguy. Whatever the problem was, it should be fixed. And for you SG & SGG fans, give this a try.
     
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  18. Phanta

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    I'm on it
     
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    only problems i saw with the gamemode was the weird stacking process, no clue why it was removed asides from going with sg.

    I could see the bugs and balances being fixed by @Mario, because he's 10x more competent than any of the other coders are/were, asides from orange.
     
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