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Question: do you think Brawl/war/warz is in violation of the minecraft server eula?

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by Copyright2017, Jan 3, 2016.

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  1. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    I really pity your brain if you think competitive WarZ is fun without a rank.
     
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  2. Chopo

    Chopo Well-Known Member

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    EULA? Is this a joke?
     
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  3. NateTheDerp

    NateTheDerp Well-Known Member

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    I guess Brawl would be in violation of minecraft server eula but nobody cares...
     
  4. Copyright2017

    Copyright2017 Active Member

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    No. It stands for end user license agreement. Are you a joke?
     
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  5. ButterMuffin112

    ButterMuffin112 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think there is much advantage.. the guns still require some skill level.
     
  6. Mokolee

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    I used to be the king Minigun until I realized that I was simply the king of being pathetic and cheap. The minigun is a pay2win item. It's not just McWar but nearly all public Minecraft servers. They require donations and funding to keep themselves up so how do people get hard-to-get donations? By adding in game changing features that give the donor an advantage over the non-donor. Pay2Win is a huge problem in the gaming society because it contrasts the poor (well not impoverished but the ones who don't have a Paypal) and the rich. It also contrasts the skillful and skill-less and it certainly contrasts what defines a fair game in general.

    This isn't just Minecraft. In mid-October, the company that created Payday 2, Overkill, ruined the game by releasing a new update that nerfed every single weapon and buffed the enemy AI significantly. The only way to counter this is through microtransactions or by paying to have your own weapons buffed. The update killed one of the most successful shooter games on the Steam store and turned it into a pathetic pay2win game.

    But look at one of the most well-known games on the Steam store that is arguably the best FPS according to PC gamers, Counter Strike : Global Offensive. The only thing you pay for is the game and the skins it offers. There is nothing that changes this game through money because aesthetics are the only thing on the market right now. If Valve kept this up, the game would have lived beyond Minecraft and probably for another generation or so because it's fair game. However, there are other reasons that I know that explain why the game is dying but I'd be going really off-topic here if I were to explain it so that concludes it.

    I am a noob. and I love osu very much
     
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  7. sjuka_legogubbar

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    First of all, EULA was created to take down those swords people could buy on pvp servers for thousands (yes many K) of $. That was the main reason why EULA was added by Mojang, bit then they kinda took it one step further so that you cant have pay2win(which was what those swords was for example)
    I know a server that isnt realy pay to win, not gonna advertise but whatever :L


    Scavenger for me is most pay2win on war, look at raygun, or minigun. You need 10x more skills if you dont have scav to Nuke with a minigun, it gives the scav under a easier game, pay2nuke.

    But then again, theres many servers that is even worse on following the EULA.
     
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  8. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    I'm not the only one who enjoys playing as whitenames, I guess there's a majority of players that ignore the rest of the whitename "population", because that is what makes up most of the servers tbh. I can't reply to all of these so I'll probably do it when I come back from school.
     
  9. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    But the thing is, white names haven't been the true WarZ community since people like soboy007 played.

    As in, 2 years ago.
     
  10. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Well that's just on the community, considering everyone is so used to being MVPs, honestly being a whitename isn't that bad, all MVP does in my opinion is save you some time getting to Zone 6 and having an extra storage. Like I said MVP was made a big thing because so many people have it and you can't get into teams without it, but in truth as a whitename you could do almost the same.
     
  11. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    No you can't.
    You try to run up on a server to help during a fight?
    You die to zombies or the fight is over before you get there.

    You die during a fight and have to run back up?
    You die to zombies or the fight is over before you get there.

    You try to apply for a team?
    You get denied.
     
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  12. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    WarZ Competitive, I find, is fun without donor.

    A. You get to explore the map more and go to places you possibly have never been.
    B. It gives you more of a challenge with fighting, you need to play more strategically then rushing like a madman hoping to kill someone.
     
  13. Chopo

    Chopo Well-Known Member

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    Well, fair enough. I only ask because this is never discussed anymore. The majority of servers don't follow these rules, and I'm pretty sure Brawl isn't looking to "fix" this.
     
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  14. Vincz

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    Guns - Now we're talking Minigun, and not Ray-Gun in infected.
    And in my opinion Minigun gives a great advantage, the one that Mojangs EULA means.
    And only with Minigun and Ray-Gun you can survive properly in infected. All other guns, including moddel, are not good enough for swarms of zombies or a very good killer-zombie [hint hint].
    Equipment - Here I agree on you on the Super Knife part. It is somehow worse than the normal knife, so I use the normal one (and switched textures). C4 gives a whole new possibility of killing though.

    Well I think you know what is waiting for you mate...
     
  15. Syntheria

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    Are you trying to get your rep up to try for staff because that statement is absolutely bull****. So if you're a donor you can't explore the map, and all MVP's rush like madmen, lol why do you have MVP then.

    Are you trying to get your rep up to try for staff because that statement is absolutely bull****. So if you're a donor you can't explore the map, and all MVP's rush like madmen, lol why do you have MVP then.
     
  16. WarSkater

    WarSkater Rob // MC-WarZ Hardcore Crafter

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    I have MVP because I enjoy being able to TP, not that I need it. It provides an asset to the game, which is useful to have. You don't NEED to have it to be good.

    Plus, I never stated that WarZ wasn't pay to win, did I?
     
  17. cryotherm

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    redundant
     
  18. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    If Minigun is powerful then I guess we have to remove Skully and Lementation

    If Raygun is powerful looks like we have to remove Iso and Dissa

    If Crossbow is powerful looks like we have to remove all the grenades

    These are basically the counters of these OP weapons, like I explained in my earlier post:

    And I MUUUUUST address something else, having the best gun doesn't make it Pay to Win, you guys are ignoring the crucial facts, the better the guns, then it's Pay to Kill (even though with my facts I denied that). In Capture the Flag you have to capture the flag and try not to get killed on the way, face it, even if you have a big Minigun you can't escape the flagroom no matter which gun you have, unless you have skill. Also in Infect you survive by surviving and trying to ward away the zombies, not to just kill a bunch of zombies (although that helps w/ EMPs and such). A zombie can easily chuck a grenade and get you, you have to dodge these and have skill once again.

    People complain that there are people who farm kills in CTF, well can't you just focus on capturing the flag and winning the game? If you're worried about that, that means you are a kill-fanatic as well in CTF. You can use the other team hogging all the kills to just get to the flag while they're busy killing other people.

    Um so yea, read my other posts because I don't want to waste time replying :3.

    I love Osu! as well but I quit because my fingers hurt, I just stick to Minecraft and CS:GO nuw

    Read about my post about how guns are balanced.
     
  19. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    Hell no.

    The Minigun can easily kill anybody who uses a Skullcrusher or Lamentation.
    We aren't asking for removal, but buffs and nerfs to certain guns.
     
  20. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Well then that's the solution, you aren't asking for the nerfs. In this thread it states how Brawl is offending the EULA and turns into a blame-war. It would be much easier to start a thread about minigun nerfs and buffs.

    And before everyone says "the coders won't listen" just think about the nerfs and buffs lately, if it's a big deal it will come into account. But I will say it's going to be hard, like I said, putty nerfed the Raygun and absolutely most of the community hated it, that's why these guns are hard to change, because so many people cling to their values. But I can't really change that, because I can't change what's inside people.
     
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