Iso or the Skull?

Let's just elaborate here so you can understand my English. The isolator is infact an overpowered weapon. No other gun in the game (besides the law now but let's not put that one in this) can shoot someone in the foot and kill them instantly. It has sixty four bullets in it without any bonuses, if stacked correctly it can be used in tandem with a sidearm to constantly deliver obscene amounts of damage, similar to the skull, beyond any thing else the game provides.
But sure, I'll play devil's advocate here, the iso does have only four shots loaded per clip, it shoots... Fairly slowly, and requires that you hit the person, which can prove difficult.
Now stay with me here as I tear your arguments apart

Clip: considering the weapon can shoot someone in any part of their body and be obliterated instantly without any hope of firing back, having a clip over four would be insanely overpowered, more so than it is already.
Reload speed: the isolator reloads faster than most other snipers, so that doesn't matter, get over the reload speed
Rate of fire: the isolator fires faster than the L118a and the Barrett50c, both do far less damage than the isolator. This is a pointless argument.
Hitting the target: I'm sorry but if you can't hit someone's chest from thirty blocks away, this isn't the game for you. Hitting someone in this game isn't hard. Considering this is all you need to do to kill someone, I don't see this as an issue.
If there's anything else you'd like to bring up to try and prove that the isolator is infact a difficult/skillful weapon to use, I'll gladly destroy those arguments too.

 

Buddy who even are you, you act like Kanye West with that ego lmao.

Actually, the iso's reload time is slower than most snipers, and I would know. I don't run around with a minigun every game , and I don't know if you do too, mostly because you're just some random in my eyes. You from McPvP bud?

So your entire counter argument is just "its one shot its OP". When you say it's extremely easy to hit somebody with it, you act like the target is afk. It takes skill and experience to hit a moving target with a skullcrusher who's also firing at you on your first try, because otherwise, in most cases, you'd die if you miss. You're only able to fire 4 times, and then you have a long reload time (again, longer than most snipers). Sure you rarely run out of ammo, but so? You have to work to get the iso, you act like you get it immediately. I have to go atm, but I'd be happy to "destroy" your next argument. Go to sleep kid lmao

 

*Looks around and sees all the flame* Well... uh... *proceeds to grab popcorn, 3 large drinks, and ultra comfy chair* let the games begin!

Oh wow! Someone else who actually sees my point of view down to the core! Jeez I would rate this every possible rating if I could, but agree will be my choice.

You failed at "destroying" his argument. You barely touched on anything... quite a pathetic comeback in my eyes.

 

Let's put this argument to rest, or a mod will lock this thread.
1) Iso is overpowered to an extent. It is one shot kill, but does have a rather small amount of bullets in a mag and a slow reload time, but the gun is always one shot kill, for god's sake.
@ragewolf120YT You seriously need to chill, kid. Your ego is as large as Peyton Manning's forehead, and you're as annoying as slow wifi.

 

Holy crap. SOMEONE GET A DOCTOR! @ragewolf120YT CAN'T MAKE IT OUT THE DOOR!

 

Nvm lets get back on topic.

 

Flub, you contradicted yourself there. You said "stop the argument" and then proceed to insult me more. And a former mod, too. Well, I guess that's hypocritical of me considering I'm the definition of an immature former mod.

 

At the end of the day any weapon in the right hands is OP. (Excludes SMG's, certain Shotguns, and Flamethrower)

The ISO and Skully are balanced weapons. Both require other components to be op. Fast reload for ISO and Scavenger for Skully.

I think the choice comes down to play style, technique, and strategy.

The best players to ever play mastered a weapon, regardless of what it was.

I'd only take advice from a select few such as @Lekosa1 for Skully or @Striker_Sly for ISO or anyone with a KDR of 6.06+(higher than mine).

The Evil-licious Noob

 

Primary point 1: incase you haven't checked my profile yet, I've been on these forums a full year longer than you, been playing mc-war for four years, and have forum statistics that blow your fourteen positive votes out of the water. If we're looking at experience here, you shouldn't even be applying your 'knowledge' to this thread.

Before I begin the next section please direct your attention to the things I have highlighted. These things I will look into more closely to further prove my points. Because you failed to actually contradict anything in my original reply with anything but opinion, you've left yourself very open to this next response.

Point 2, in peices:
1. "Buddy who even are you, you act like Kanye West with that ego lmao".
Alright. Like I said above, I earned my place here through time spent in and around this community, hense me having over a thousand messages here in the brawl forums. With just one click you can see that I've been around a while, have good standing in the community, and as you can see in my replies, have the support of the people. Just looking at my profile immediately disproves me being from McPvP, and makes you look like a regular forum virgin.

2. "I don't run around with a minigun every game".
This is easy. Plenty of people can vouch for my almost redicious amount of non-isolator sniper rifle use. Seriously, ask anyone who follows me, they know how I play in game. If you meant this to be some testiment to your own personal play style, that's great. Good for you. I don't see how this relates to the topic.

3. "So your entire counter argument is just "its one shot its OP".
If you read into my post more than skimming it, you would see that I gave you multiple reasons as to how your argument didn't have morrings. My argument hasn't been "it's one shot it's op", my argument has been that the isolator isn't a weapon to be proud of using because it's not a "fair" weapon, or "unsportsmanlike" to be using. To put in simple terms. Out of all of the snipers (or other guns in the game) this is easily the "cheapest" to use. Notice I'm not using big words, and making an effort to use what I assume is your lingo.

4. "It takes skill and experience to hit a moving target".
Maybe some skill and experience, beyond maybe 30+ however, hitting someone is one of the easiest things to do. NOT getting hit is much harder because users know (if they've played mc-war for a year or so) every. single. trick. You can pull to dodge them. Because of this statement it shows me that you have difficulty hitting players at all, let alone a headshot that is required by all of the other weapons in this game to OSK anyone. Which explains why your trying to defend the isolator as a gun that "takes skill and experience" to use.

5. "You have to work to get the iso, you act like you get it immediately."
It takes maybe a month of mc-war to get the isolator. So yes. That's pretty immediate. The "work" you put in pre-30+ is absolutely nothing compared to level 60+, and by then you aren't even working toward anything more than more kills and higher KD. If you want to apply math to your thinking, the time a level 100+ has been without an isolator is maybe... One percent of his/her total playtime? For a 60+ maybe ten percent? The work you put in to get the isolator is a fraction of the work you put in to actually get good at the game.

6. "Go to sleep kid lmao"
This is probably the least mature I've seen anyone on this forum yet besides my first thread. I was very similar to you when I first logged in, and started a flame war very similar to this one. In fact, I was even using the isolator at the time. Don't be me, learn to get your butt kicked by the veteran players, get good, get a good rap on the forums, and get noticed. Don't do what I did. Drop this, accept it, and move on.

Also this

Please tell me why your even trying to talk about a gun you haven't gotten close to getting your hands on yet @ragewolf120YT

 

I've been here since the server started, I'm an alt. account. Beat Serine in a 1v1 two times in a row, etc. etc. If you'd read what both me and CaptainBrawler said, you'd see we countered all of your arguments, leaving the only one left "its one shot so its OP". Then you say it's an unfair weapon. Just because you're not good enough to avoid being killed by an iso, doesn't make the gun OP or unfair. It just makes you bad lmao. Also, I don't have difficulty hitting a shot, it's extremely easy for me to be honest.

 

I don't know about you, but after running circles around him, I just want to know who this guy's alt is.
If he's as badass as he speaks, I'm sure I'll recognize his legendary name.
Or, of course, your using an alt because you were banned. If that's the case you might want to not talk about that. I think Alts of banned users get banned too, correct?

 

Yes they do. I don't know how it works, but Brawl should have a system to find alts of banned players ( Not entirely sure ).
But let's keep it on topic and stop the flame War, no one likes this.

 

If you have the right skill, iso is op.
But ill recomend skully for noobs.

Lema is my fav fun...

 

case closed

 

Apparently people have extremely different views on iso and skully. I think that iso takes no skill whatsoever, and skully is bad now because of the nerf (again, my opinion), famas is better than skully, and dissa is better than all the guns (provided you have scav). OSK on headshots with dissa, that's not hard for me to do.

 

It osk suparmor on headshot. Since I dont know the bullet type I would say its a .50 cal or 400 lapula magnum

 

Hey way to bypass the flame war. Commendations are in order.

I think the skull definitely has its place, but for a larger map the isolator simply outpreforms it. The only area I feel the skull is really the preferred weapon would be a more compact, more twitchy map where the skulls impressive hip fire could save your life.

(Also @ragewolf120YT hasnt answered my question, and I'm assuming the worst)

 

Wasn't online. And to answer your question: Figure it out on your own, it really isn't hard.

 

Both guns have pros and cons, really depends how you play.

Here's a tip he was on the leader boards and a long time well known member.