ISO - Zombie Apocalypse

I think the iso is the DSR-1 which uses a 400 Lapula Magnum round

I also love using 2 primary weapons in infect:
The iso and the Model

Can we have a sass rating? we need one of those

 

I really don't care at this point, there are so many iso-loving people in war that it's useless at this point to try to convince them that dissa is by far the better option. Their ignorance is what blinds them, and it's very sad

 

All you're doing here is syaing that the iso takes no skill and not explaining why. You're doing nothing here but being annoying in this thread. If you would explain why you feel the iso takes no skill, I would take in your view on it and acknowledge it. Right now, I can't really take in your point because you gave no explanation.

 

I feel like infect is an exception to the general "rules" of gun use. If you notice, no one complains about your gun choice unless it's a raygun (which we can all agree is redicious in infect). So arguing about weapon choice in infect is something this community got over a long time ago. Now the (for lack of a better term) "social rules" for gun use is being argued in tdm and ctf, the gamemodes that really dictate personal skill. I think it's wasted time and effort to be making points and counterpoints on something the community as a whole resolved a year ago.
Here's the rule as I see it "as the odds are stacked so heavily against you, choose your weapon as you will so you may take your ten second final stand as you see fit"

 

Here's details: It OSKs on any part of the hitbox. It has 4 shots in a clip and the reload takes roughly 5 seconds. I'm only restating what you know and what I know. Dissa is the supreme overlord of all of War based on the facts that it's a nuke in one clip, OSK on headshots which forces people to have a better aim when using it.You have to be more sparing with your ammo as well because you only have 32 shots, but when paired with scav, it's a match in heaven.I just think that a OSK on any part of the hitbox is not hard to get used to. I've used iso when I was a newbie, and I loved it, but then I got scav and had leveled up to 41, bought dissa, and never looked back. I EMPed and nuked with iso every now and then, but with dissa, it's highly unlikely that I won't EMP or nuke.

 

I see why you think dissa is better, but you didn't answer my question. Your answer doesn't explain why iso "takes no skill to use" like you said. It only explains why the dissa is better, and not why the iso takes no skill. Also, just to clarify, I can use your answer against you by saying the dissa takes less skill than the iso. I can say that "it's a nuke in one clip". I can also say that the iso has a crippling reload time and time in between shots. The dissa takes less time for both of those.

Also, while you may think the dissa is much better than the iso in every way, I think the iso is much better. People have different opinions about both guns and have different playing styles. You don't need to force your opinion on other people just because you think it's better. I don't think it's better because it's not my style. No amount of explaining is going to change that for me or some others. The dissa suits you best and the iso suits me best. Let's keep it at that and please stop trying to force your opinion on others. Me saying that doesn't excuse you from replying with your reasoning. I am just saying this just to say that people like either one over the other. They are completely different for people with different playing styles. I still want to hear your argument for the dissa.


P.S. Don't call people ignorant because they have different opinions than you. It's very unbecoming.
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Actually, I did explain why iso takes no skill to use. I guess I'll have to restate it for you. It OSKs on any part of the hitbox. Anyone has a decent enough aim to hit a target ANYwhere, but hitting specifically the head/top of the hitbox is tougher to do, which requires more skill. But not having to worry about where you hit your target, just as long as you hit it, makes you less concerned about the spot you're aiming at. If you still don't understand, third time's the charm right?
Of course you can say that dissa takes less skill than iso, but not everyone has scav (I do), so you'd have to either have a phenominal aim, or combo dissa/python for kills to get the nuke in one clip.

 

For a lot of people, aiming for the head is so engrained when sniping that they aim for the head no matter what rifle they are using, iso or drag or barret. when I did play war i caught myself constantly aiming for the head with the iso. Also the iso isnt left click right click you have to estimate how far away the target is so you know how far ahead to shoot. Even then it is considerably hard to drill them because they might dodge it or you might aim to far ahead/vise versa.

Spoiler: Dissa iso rant

Sniping in general is difficult and with the iso you are more likely to get killed if there is a large group of enemies due to the small mag and long reload. With the dissa your odds of surviving an encounter with a group of enemies is much higher due to the faster ROF and mag size. The iso is both a weapon that requires a lot of skill to use and a weapon that does not take a lot of skill to use it depending on your view.

 

I have phenomenal aim.. I nuked with just the dissa once... Okay several times... Yaaaay

I think the Iso and the dissa are both very different guns, both unique in their class, and are designed for different things. The Iso made to be terrifying. It's OSK ability will often make players comepletely abandon trying to push down a lane. The dissa is crowd control, because it can lay down a seemingly unending hail of death, it too can make people abandon a lane, but for different reasons.
Now if you wanted to argue over what was better, the Barrett or L118a, that would be interesting because they're very similar guns designed for similar things.

 

I guess I've never really had that issue...

I vote L118A on that one.

 

Just because the iso is a OSK, doesn't mean it takes no skill to use. To use the iso, you need pin point accuracy. Like starbo said, you need to actually aim it and compensate for the distance from you to the player, the speed of the bullet, the direction the player is going in, and their movement pattern. If you miss one shot, you can not immediately compensate for your miss and adjust right then and there. Unless the player isn't moving, it's impossible. The time between shots is very large (~1.15 seconds). After a miss, you have to completely re-aim altogether because the player has most likely not doing the same exact thing as right before you shot. While the iso shoots as fast as a snail, the dissa shoots a lot faster (~0.6 seconds per shot). This means that if you use the dissa, you can just adjust your aim right at that moment, rather than having to re-aim completely because of the time in between shots. It compensates for the needing a headshot for the dissa. Also like what starbo said, I almost instinctively aim for the head.

The point is, I can take any point you give me and talk about another point that counters that. That is why the guns are balanced. They don't need any more tweaking. That is why the guns are totally different and can not and should not be compared to each other. They are for people with different playing styles.

If you want to see an in-depth thread about the iso and it's pros and cons, you can click here (by me) or here (by MR_EVIL_OVERLORD). My rating is a +1, meaning it is balanced. A -1 would be too weak, and a +1 sweep would be too powerful.

 

Can claim that you need pin point accuracy for any gun...

 

use *effectively and efficiently*

 

THANK YOU. You see, sniping in game is a lot like sniping irl but without wind, drag, spin, and bullet drop.

Not exactly true, I can name exceptions.

1. all the shotguns
2. Mini
3. Cbow (explosion radius can kill)
4. Ray (explosion)
5. LAW (explosion)

 

Can you still claim it? Yes, you can. Whether or not scoping matters on the gun, however, is a different story. All I said is that you can claim to "actually need to aim" for any gun.