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Swearing Should Be Allowed

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Ideas' started by __JackFrost__, Jan 26, 2016.

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Should swearing be allowed?

  1. Yes, but not for spamming chat, raging etc.

  2. No, children can't see these curse words.

  3. idk

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  1. 18kss

    18kss All is within

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    I like this. Having the option to have it censored or not would be great.
     
  2. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman

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    Swearing is not nice. ;-; Why'd some one ever want a uncensored chat? v:
     
  3. GetShadowRealmed

    GetShadowRealmed What do I put here

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    Well yours is kind of what I based it off of. You believe practically the same as i do
     
  4. DaddyDonaldTrump

    DaddyDonaldTrump Well-Known Member

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    If you enable swearing you don't have to be bother about bypassing chat filter anymore lol.
    And let's be honest, kids these days swear with every word they know, from cancer until Ebola or something, like what's the difference, every kid these days are on YouTube searching for nudes like what the hell, and every single one swears all day.
     
  5. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    That is unfair to say. There are quite a few reports for people swearing in chat. That shows that it does disturb some people, and that we need to be considerate of their views.
     
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  6. theronguard1500

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    Alright I recognize from one side we have the people saying "people need to grow up and be mature, so remove/allow toggling" and on the other side we have "mine craft is a kids game" and I lean more towards mine craft is indeed a kids game but besides that, a chat filled with vulgar language is not the kind of environment I want to play in, it's not fun, promotes disrespect, and believe it or not, but it does influence the children that play. I hear enough of this kind of talk in public teamspeak channels as it is, chat should not be anywhere close to that. Don't compare "other games" that allow a toggle option or no chat filter to brawl because brawl is its own entity in the game world. Our community is based on a safe gaming environment for ALL, not a hostile one where people can throw around vulgar insults every time they die.
     
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  7. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Don't get me wrong. I understand that brawl is its own game, however, we cannot ignore the fact that swearing is a common theme for video games. All platforms share the same problem. To ignore that would seem immature. Swearing will not go away, so therefore we need to combat it. The older, more mature audiences should be able to have a serious conversation with a moderate amount of swearing. For the younger, less mature gamers a filter enforced chat system would save those from corruption and make for a friendlier gaming experience. However, standards change from gamemode to gamemode.

    Take party for example. Jmods are taught that because party is a gamemode typically hosting a younger players base, we are made aware that issues that arise will not be from hacking, but from raging little kids who lost a game. This is easy to monitor with a strict warning and a chat filter. The same is true for more competitive games like ctf, pvp, or war-based games. These are comprised of younger audiences or perhaps more competitive older players who take the game too seriously. For these, foul language is not uncommon. A strict chat filter should be enforced.

    However, for less competitive, friendlier communities such as creative or build there are less chat infringements. Most of these players are older, more laid back, or more mature than the typical audience. For these types of gamemodes someone should be able to have a decent conversation with someone while using the language that is common on a video game. Swearing is not going to disappear, so we need to consider why people cuss and take action in response to that. This is why I believe in the toggle feature.
     
  8. Chlammy

    Chlammy Well-Known Member

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    some people are triggered by sandwiches, that doesnt mean they have valid opinions. second, the first amendment protects any kind of speach without malice, meaning that as long as its not intended to hurt people or aimed at people, its fine.
     
  9. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    Am I the only one who thinks that it's completely absurd that we're even having this discussion?

    This is a video game server for cripes sake. People swear. I get that. But there is absolutely no reason to see that in the chat screen. Most people in this thread who have proposed/argued for a toggle-able swear filter or no swear filter at all have largely said "oh well swears aren't that bad... most people can deal with them etc. etc.". Let's be honest here, that is not an argument for a toggle-able swear filter or removing the filter entirely.

    Does the swear filter need work? Yeah, it could be improved so it doesn't block words that aren't actually swear-words. But honestly, the proposals here such as removing the swear filter entirely or making it "toggle-able" are not only a colossal waste of time but are just stupid ideas in general.

    Let's take a look at the toggle-able swear filter idea. Now think about it, when would anyone actually toggle the swear filter? You have kids on this server who think the f-word is the coolest word ever, and yes there are people who actually think that. You think people like that who curse like nobody's business are going to turn on a swear filter? The only time anyone, especially people like that, as far as I can fathom would even turn on a swear filter is if they didn't want their parents to see the chat screen or whatever. It's ridiculous.

    I mean, if being able to "curse freely" is such a part of your video game experience then go on Skype! It has no swear filter! Hooray! Now you can swear like a sailor to your heart's content! Or you can do it with other people :O

    As @_Featherpaw_ states, swearing is a common theme in video games. I get that. I see it all the time on other games and servers. But tell me, why should that be view-able in the chat in ANY case?

    I can tell you right now, the lack of swearing in the chat has not been detrimental to my CTF or Brawl experience and the fact that it would be detrimental to anyone else's just showcases their own lack of maturity.
     
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  10. Arpy

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    I SUGGESTED IT!!!
     
  11. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    We would originally have it on for those that are sensitive to that kind of language, but have it be toggle-able for those that don't mind the swearing. It's not a solution for the people that don't rage, but rather for those of us that are mature enough to handle a couple of cuss words. Sometimes I wish there wasn't a filter. It's frustrating seeing a bunch of asterisks where there should be words. To me its a preference but at the same time I understand others may be offended by the harsh words. This feature would be a happy medium.
     
  12. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    Lol. Look, I respect you as a person and everything but this is so ridiculous. Are you saying we should have a toggle-able swear filter because some people can "handle swear words"? This isn't alcohol we're talking about here Featherpaw. We're talking about allowing people to freely see cursing in the in game chat and just because a lot of people don't mind it - probably because most modern culture is saturated with cursing and sex - including myself it's not a reason to basically get rid of the filter entirely, which is exactly what would happen if you made it 'toggle-able'.

    Like I said earlier, I really don't see most people keeping the swear filter on. Most people on this server, or most Minecraft servers for that matter, are teenagers or nearly teenagers. It's the curiosity age, it's when that whole thing with puberty happens. Hardly anyone at that age is all pure and holy and doesn't want to see any 'blasphemy' or whatever.

    Oh yes, it's so irritating to see a bunch of asterisks when I was trying to say something offensive. Curses! IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD EVERYBODY! BRAWL SPONSORS CENSORSHIP! RUN FOR THE HILLS!

    It is beyond my comprehension that anyone should be allowed to freely swear, or do so my their choice in a Minecraft game chat when they can literally do that anywhere else. I mean, it has never occurred to me where I'm thinking, "gee you know what would make this game better? If I had a thing that could let me swear freely in chat! Yeah that'll show em!"

    You're completely right that swearing is not going to disappear, no one expects it too. But, in my opinion, if you want to see curse-words and go talk like "adults" then go to Skype, Slack, Teamspeak, Friendster, Facebook, Discord, or the endless number of other random social sites and have it out. Heck you can even do that in private chat in Minecraft, which is uncensored. That's what I do! It's no big deal for me. It really isn't. Honestly, to remove or to provide an option to remove the swear filter (however flawed it is) from the in game chat on Brawl's servers is stupid, unnecessary, and a huge waste of time.
     
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  13. theronguard1500

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    Basically my entire argument haha, well said!
     
  14. __JackFrost__

    __JackFrost__ Well-Known Member

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    From experience, one of the main reasons I stayed on McPvP for as long as I did was the freedom of speech an the only rules were basically no spamming, and don't cheat or hack. I think that is a major, major, major reason in what kept a lot of players on McPvP through the years.

    Once Brawl took control of CTF, HG, and whatever else I don't remember, players started to diminish simply because they thought it was not the same. The way things went for a lot of former Brawl/McPvP players gave them more freedom and the the censored chat is something I feel really took down a lot of the servers that came over from McPvP.

    Take the Hardcore Games for example.... Between the years of 2013-early 2015, McPvP got a solid 100 players per game consistently. It was enjoyable and fun for players because the only rules were just not to hack and not to spam. They were given lots of trust and freedom on the servers, something that Brawl really LIMITS (not saying they don't give players freedom) on their servers. Now, the Hardcore Games are lucky if they get over 30 players in a single game. I find it hard to play these days just because it's so much different and frustrating.

    Explicit language is part of some people's language and let's face it, SWEARING is not going ANYWHERE. AS somebody above said, it is a common theme in video games, and it is almost apart of the game for some players without actually being in the game.
     
  15. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    *****, **** no.

    Now would you rather see that?

    You're like my English teacher talking about a child losing their innocence.
     
  16. pevs

    pevs Well-Known Member

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    Problem for me, is that the censored words are so very obvious to figure out, and there is a very small minority of young kids these days that don't know some or most of the profanity in our westernized language. I wouldn't be against just having it spit back at you, "Do not swear" and denies the message send. I mean, why keep a chat filter anyways if it doesn't matter if it's censored or not, you still get yelled at by mods ¯\(°_o)/¯
     
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  17. theronguard1500

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    Well if your going to bring up mcpvp why not bring up mine plex, they have hunger games as well, and a very very strict chat filter that's worked for a long time. They do just fine on their player base so why should it be any different here?
     
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  18. Slovakoko

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    The communities where swearing is most prevalent(WarZ) has the type of players to come back at you with more wear words if they are told not to. Its a discusting habit that is only adopted by the 16 year olds with the brain of an 8 year old. :L. Warnings do nothing these days, mute kick ban, the only way to solve problems.
     
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  19. pevs

    pevs Well-Known Member

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    I am saying to avoid all those bans/kicks/mutes, you can simply do what I said above.
     
  20. Pias

    Pias Active Member

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    To be honest there is no reason for people to swear in chat. Express it to your self, say them out loud if you even have to say them at all. It should not be added.
     
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