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Problems with WildWest (not bugs)

Discussion in 'Wild West' started by Piky, Feb 7, 2016.

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  1. Piky

    Piky Well-Known Member

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    Here's some problems I see in this. Note, these are purely out of my own opinion and views of how I see WildWest currently
    Whoops, I posted this a little early. Still discussing.
    • Somewhat like WarZ, it's hugely team dependent to kill enemies, process stuff, and other junk. Because there's not a lot of weapons, it can take a lot of people to take out a one or a few people. Even full diamonds...
    • Processing issues: It. Takes. So. Damn. Long... A long and tedious process that most wouldn't want to go afk since it leaves you open.
    • Money: No money? Go mine some! Oh wait, you can't cause someone else is probably camping somewhere and appears from the backside. Process everything near the mines? Too bad, people will love to take all that away
    • Drugs? Well sure if you want either want to get pumbled endlessly when going to obtain Wildgrass or go for the worst drug you can obtain. Either way, there's probably someone with a gun going to camp you.
    • Non-illegal guns: They're almost useless compared to the T-Gewehr
    • Illegal guns: T-Gewehr, T-Gewehr, T-Gewehr, T-Gewehr, T-Gewehr, T-Gewehr, Model(?).
    • Armor: You can't kill anybody with full diamond, it's stupid, 80% damage reduction makes them unstoppable. Seriously, remove diamond armor to make this more fair and balanced or only allow one set piece, it's really unfair.
    • Non-noobie friendly: The guide kinda useless in these cases as you have to fight off players always attacking you, why is it that these servers are always non-noobie friendly.
    • Camping outside of areas and waiting for players to move is also a problem, it's hella annoying as if you have no money to travel, you're just fresh meat.
    • Farming Simulator: Mine ores/obtain drugs, die to people killing you in processing, start all over or get killed endlessly. Do you expect anyone to wait for someone to leave just to obtain stuff?..
    • No money: You can't do jack ****...
    Yes, I know this is still beta... Don't give me this damn answer of "it's still in beta".
    It sounds like I'm salty/mad and it's because I am, the diamond armor is bull to fight against.


    And remember, if they kill you even if you don't have anything on you...
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  2. pAggYDaRP

    pAggYDaRP Well-Known Member

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    Theres also the fact that they told you to report issues so they can fix it while its still in beta as well, add that. Although I havent played WildWest yet, sounds like you do have a point here.
     
  3. Piky

    Piky Well-Known Member

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    These are mainly problems caused by both community & in-game use and it's up for discussion as well.
    Some things should be changed to help out in this beta.
     
  4. Jaetpack1

    Jaetpack1 Why jetpack when you can Jaetpack? (RC1)

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    I guess it's the first to the top just exponentially gets better and everyone else is left in the dust. It's basically a race to get to a point where you have actual power and you're not running from the towns to the mines all the time. Once you're at a point where you don;t have to do that, you're practically better than everyone else. It's hard for a new person, but hey, that's what the beta is for!
     
  5. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    - I can agree a little bit on this, teams are pretty OP as of now, but I can say that it's not very likely to have a full team travel around everywhere, and be at the server. The likelihood is kind of low considering the map is simply so huge, it's kind of hard to target one person and hunt him down on a full-scale Wild West map. I completely agree Diamond is OP and the guns are not very good. Considering I was leather with a T-Gewr and I got one-shot which was really sad to me.

    - I'm pretty sure coders are trying to do something about this, but I do agree it takes A LONG time to do this, especially when processing drugs where you can get killed at anytime.

    - Right now in Beta there isn't like everyone camping every single mine, but I can see after beta more people will come, and some mines/drugs fields/cartels/rebel bases will be heavily camped and there won't be a possibility to go there without a team.

    - Yeep

    - Not unless you combo, which isn't even a feature that's supposed to be in Wild West. But I doubt they will make comboing stay forever. But yeaa.

    - Completely agree, stated this earlier as well.

    - Wild West is more of an aggressive game, but that's no excuse for not letting new people develop and actually get to play. I could agree on this, but as of right now I don't really see how you can do this. Yes, I shall say the cursed word, I think AFTER BETA it shall be noob friendly with more features and more ways to get from rag-to-riches.

    - COUGH COUGH TEAM M8 @18kss @Lord_Roke @Pyrotheum camping me and waiting till I get out of frisco, baddies. But yea, this poses a problem. Possibly Combat Tagging like in Survival PvP, but if a sheriff catches you fighting in towns then both of you go to jail?

    - I agree it's really hardcore, even if you store money in your bank, to get a T-Gewehr don't you have to go to Rebel Camps?

    - Pretty much, and it's a pretty long and painful process of collecting drugs/ores then processing then selling (especially hard to find drug dealers besides the one behind the conductor in Ellsworth).

    Other than that I will talk about stuff, and YES it it shall contain the cursed word AFTER BETA. I know you didn't make this thread to rant how bad Wild West is (although you kind of did to fix it, but it feels good lel), and you tried to fix it. But things like prices, armor, damages, those are things that can be easily changed considering it's Beta. I previously talked about people who had normal ranks and saying it's unfair that they couldn't play. Well, the donators have to get through all the bugs & glitches, and while doing so they can report them to get it fixed by coders. Wild West is pretty new, meaning there's going to be problems.

    About the major changes, yus.... AFTER BETA THEY SHALL BE FIXED OR AT LEAST SOMETHING ELSE SHOULD COME INTO PLAY TO MAKE IT BETTER. As long as we keep on making good ideas.
     
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  6. Piky

    Piky Well-Known Member

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    And that's the problem usually.
    Survival of the Fittest in a nutshell, power is the main object to most, power to obtain popular and overpower everybody. But when you're nearly unkillable because of diamond armor, health, high donor ranks, it makes the game nearly unfair to play with. But oh wells...
     
  7. xxMineSheepxx

    xxMineSheepxx baaaahh

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    Also, the mines and drug fields are all so far away. You have to travel on foot, collect stuff, go back to a town. You'll probably lose a lot of hunger by then, and you will most likely get killed :c
     
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  8. 18kss

    18kss All is within

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    This is an aspect of the server that I enjoy. Your stuff isn't just handed to you on a silver platter. You actually have to travel really far to get good stuff :smile:

    About killing full diamonds: that's not all too difficult. You just need to be well equipped. Use the element of surprise.

    About illegal guns being better than legal: they're a bit better. That's why they're illegal. I killed a WarZ guy the other day that was full diamond and had all illegal guns while I only had the legal rifle. It's possible!
     
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  9. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Did you combo? If so that's not a feature of the real Wild West :V.
     
  10. Piky

    Piky Well-Known Member

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    But the issue is, diamond is too overpowered (sorta), 80% damage reduction is quite a lot. Plus, if you're wanting to get money to get illegeal weapons and diamond armor, goodluck farming the slow way (ores) or attempting to get wildgrass drugs people will never get. Do you know how it feels to spend hours processing drugs, just to get killed by someone shifting behind walls and follow you to the drug dealer and have to start all over again only to follow the same process and never get anywhere?..
    Oh yeah, combo's do not count
     
  11. 18kss

    18kss All is within

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    I can't combo :v
    The price of the diamond armor could be raised. It's currently at 110k gold, which still took me a while to get.
    Everyone goes through the same process starting out. I do agree with you about the processing. It takes foreverrrr...

    And most importantly, you should process with a team that's always on guard. Going solo is a big mistake, especially if you aren't checking around for players.
     
  12. Piky

    Piky Well-Known Member

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    Issue is, I don't want WW to turn into a team dependent game to do tasks but I guess it can work out if I can ever get a team that's on usually.
    Now for processing, if it didn't take 4 seconds for each shroom process on 27 slots (115.2 minutes) or completely 2-3 hours only to get 1-2 diamond pieces/T-Gewehr's. It would be lovely if it wasn't so damn long. But I guess there's going to be a "donor feature" that reduces the time by X amount.
    I have no idea what the time is for other drugs but I assume it's around 3-6 seconds.
     
  13. Darkchaosknight

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    Once again, add a quest system. Removes the farming nature whilst keeping the PvP and lore :smile:
     
  14. sjuka_legogubbar

    sjuka_legogubbar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    "I only had the legal rifle" -18kss
    ,_, read and understand that he only had one Gun :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  15. YeezyLaces

    YeezyLaces Well-Known Member

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    The biggest problem is if you don't have a rank it's what $10 just to play?
     
  16. xxMineSheepxx

    xxMineSheepxx baaaahh

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    more like 10 for a rank
     
  17. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    I'm a huge solo player so I get the feeling people like me, and newcomers who don't know anyone to make a team with, will really struggle. *cough* @Risen_God and his team killed me when I had nothing *cough*
     
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  18. xxMineSheepxx

    xxMineSheepxx baaaahh

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    No, it's not handed to you in a silver platter, but this gets really un-noob friendly. Once beta is over, I'm sure plenty of people will join, when all of us had a headstart already. People who are real strong will kill all newcomers, and they will have no chance of survival. The bad thing about ww is that it isn't noob-friendly, just like how war is. Imo, ww is war with a different theme.
     
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  19. sjuka_legogubbar

    sjuka_legogubbar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Its beta sir... This wont be a 'problem' when beta is over
     
  20. 18kss

    18kss All is within

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    Stats will be reset once the BETA is over.
     
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