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Syrian Refugee Crisis in Europe

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Jaetpack1, Feb 10, 2016.

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What is your opinion?

  1. The Syrian refugees should be let into the countries of Europe because of their rights and problems

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  2. They should be let in because of morality and their right to have shelter

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    35.7%
  3. They should be let in because of their safety

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  4. They shouldn't be let in because it's too much of a hassle for Europe

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  5. They shouldn't be let in because it would cause mass-distress and crime

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  6. They shouldn't be let in because it would cost too much

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  7. They shouldn't be let in because Europe's economy can;t handle it

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    14.3%
  8. I am undecided

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    3.6%
  9. It isn't important to me

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    10.7%
  10. It is not a large enough issue and their are bigger pressing issues

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    3.6%
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  1. Jaetpack1

    Jaetpack1 Why jetpack when you can Jaetpack? (RC1)

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    Myself, @PoixMine, and @Lord_Roke (and @0racle chimed in once in a while) had a massive debate on the Syrian refugee crisis in Europe. There were many facts, opinions, and political ideas thrown around in the two hour "debate" so to say. I'm not going to say who had what opinion because I don't want there to be any disrespect. Opinion One* had the opinion of Europe not allowing the refugees in with many ideas about security, the economy, and overall sanity. It was a very well thought out argument and just to be clear, there was no racism or disheart to the Syrian refugees. It was purely an opinion and just that. There shouldn't be any disrespect because of his opinion. It was nothing that had to do with racism. Siding with the refugees, Opinion Two* had the stand on defending them and wanting to let them in with ideas about border control, safety, the future of the refugees themselves, and the fact that many refugees are stuck in the war zone.

    There were any arguments, but the same ideas came up many times: safety of the European countries, safety of the refugees, the European economy, personal opinion, housing and shelter for the refugees, spending limits on the refugees, the political opinions of the specific countries, and most importantly, morals and what's right and what's not.

    It was very interesting to hear all of the different opinions and where everyone was coming from and why they had those opinions. We covered a lot about the issue, but not everything. It is a pressing issue in the world and it shouldn't go unanswered.

    What is your opinion?

    *"Opinion One" and "Opinion Two" are substitutes for names to keep opinions confidential and private. I want to respect that.

    P.S. I will ask for this thread to be deleted or locked if it gets out of hand.
     
    #1 Jaetpack1, Feb 10, 2016
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  2. Pegleg98

    Pegleg98 Well-Known Member

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    Holy sh*t. Did you just post about the... on the...

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  3. tdaddy

    tdaddy Active Member

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    It's a Minecraft forum, and I get that it's off-topic, but this is a forum full of like, 10 year olds.

    Not sure what feedback you think you're going to be getting :l
     
  4. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    >.< I've got a bad feeling about this. Anyways, as I stated on TeamSpeak, I think that we should help te refugees, not give up our rights, customs, or cultures, but give them the necessities that all humans need to survive. They are not asking to be kicked out of their country, and we all need to be compassionate of what they are going through. Although, I do think that some actions, such as customizing our culture to suit their beliefs is not compmetelynecessary, and that the refugees need to respect how our country works.
     
  5. jacobkolstad

    jacobkolstad Well-Known Member

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    Norway keeps complaining about refugees... Hell, last month we deported refugees to Russia. Of course, these had also crossed the border from Russia to get to Norway, but still, we should help them. It's important we actually save lives, and people who keep claiming it's better we help them where they are instead of taking them to us are all wrong. Why? Because we've tried to help them where they are for many years and it haven't given any good results.
     
  6. C9_Mango

    C9_Mango Well-Known Member

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    Lmao I like how you can tell which of the opinions is yours based on how you describe the two.
     
  7. Jaetpack1

    Jaetpack1 Why jetpack when you can Jaetpack? (RC1)

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    I guess you could, but my opinion probably isn't the one you think it is :wink:
     
  8. thesquook

    thesquook diddy amin

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    Let them in and let's go 100% UAE style

    hehe i offended so many people there
     
  9. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    I agree that they should be let in, but to a certain extent. Do you want the bombing in Turkey to happen again? I think we should let them in, and restrict them to a certain area. I'm not EU or anything, in fact, I'm Asian, and I know almost nothing about this, but I know for a fact I don't want more people killed
     
  10. jacobkolstad

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    Well, the United States are the ones keeping the war in Syria going, and they have been doing so for many years by now. Now, please explain to me what it is in Syria you're trying to protect that's worth more than 470.000 lives?
     
  11. Pizze

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    tbh they should clean up the sand people because when I step outside I drown in a sea of refugees
     
  12. EmperorCreeperIV

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    Once they get enough Muslim refugees, I am sure that they'll try to take over the country and get their hands on powerful weapons, I think it would be smarter to make refugee camps in other countries that are also muslim
     
  13. C9_Mango

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    Oh my god

    Please never reproduce
     
  14. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    I've been following this story since early summer.

    And I think that everything that can be done should be done.

    Resources, money, and countries should do everything possible to help.

    We are a country of immigrants and these people are fleeing horrible situations, willing to risk their life to cross the Mediterranean and an uncertain future.

    I live in the US and I think we should accept more people. We are accepting more immigrants than we were earlier. Historically, immigration helps a country through diversified workforce and economics.
     
  15. Jaetpack1

    Jaetpack1 Why jetpack when you can Jaetpack? (RC1)

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    I totally agree.
     
  16. C9_Mango

    C9_Mango Well-Known Member

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  17. Pizze

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    why
     
  18. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    I heard reports all summer of their boats sinking and whole families drowning.

    That picture of the baby who drowned was very sad.

    And I think the morons building the walls should instead try to incorporate them into society so they thrive which will help their
    country prosper.
     
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  19. C9_Mango

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    "Clean up the sand people"
    "Drown in a sea of refugees"

    You don't know how many times their lives have been threatened. You don't know about how horrible the war in Syria is.

    If you are going to be this ignorant and disrespectful, I urge you to not pass on your genes so we don't have to deal with this.

    Oh my god

    You are my favorite person.
     
  20. JoseMigueCarrera

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    All of this started on year 7 BC, just saying; Also with the crusades.

    And yes, of coarse they should be accepted. But it's going to happen the same that happen with US, UK and Chile; It will be good for now, cheap production, they will take the jobs that no one else want to take; but what happens when they are old? They have work, lived in the US (Just for example), They are North Americans, but will trully the state care about them? Will the state spend a lot of money in medicines for them? The answer is yes. But thats a problem, not because they are strangers, the problem is that medicines are not cheaps. Who is going to pay the public institutions? Of coarse the state, and that means: you, yes you reader, your neighbour, the girl you like, even the bully guy on the school. Everyone who pays their taxes is paying their life. But is a human right to have a home, to be healthy; even if that means a little inflation in the taxes.

    And then theres the another face of coin.
    Like all America did, they should fight for their freedom, mens, childs, and not less important, girls. They have the guns, they have the knowledge to lead a war, they just don't have the will (Who would have it after all?!). They have the world support; the biggest nations in the world can help them, and thats exactly what they are doing.

    On whats my opinion, they should stay there and fight. But im not against they moving to another countries, after all they have a family, and i bet no one here wants their family to die.
     
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