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Why Brawl Should NOT update to 1.9

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by supercandymax, Feb 23, 2016.

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Do you want the server to update to 1.9?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. supercandymax

    supercandymax Member

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    I don't think this server should update to the 1.9 update. Before you stop reading and hating on this post, hear me out and consider the many reasons I have provided in this post. I dislike most aspects of the update.
    My first reason is that it adds things that make the game less like Minecraft and more like a modpack or a new game entirely. For an example of what I'm talking about, the tipped arrows, Elytra, Frost Walking Enchantment, Shields, And many more. None of these items are Minecraft-Like. These items just don't fit into the base game. They ruin the Minecrafty feel to the game.
    My second reason is that it removes signature things from the Minecraft that have been in the game for ages. They removed sword blocking, changed the zombie model, replaced some sounds, and more. This makes the game feel different as well. They have changed lots of sounds, not much for the better. The update is removing the small features Signature to Minecraft
    The third reason is the new PvP. You saw this one coming. The cooldown is pretty annoying, because every two seconds you would land a hit. I also dislike the shield and shield feature, as it makes the game feel like some other game, and modded like I mentioned above. The shield just complicates things more, and makes a slow PvP match slower. Then there's dual wielding. We need this why? To make the game a modpack? It has no good use, except for an extra inventory slot. Even holding a shield and a sword at the same time wont do much, because you cant hit while using the shield.
    Please, do not update Brawl to 1.9. I really think it ruins the game, and I spent a lot of money on this server, mainly on kits for the Hardcore Games. So please, please keep at least some of the servers 1.8. You should keep about 1/3 to 1/6 of the servers 1.8, so people who don't enjoy 1.9 can still enjoy the server. Thank you for reading this post, I hope you can agree with me.

    Also, let me know if you agree with me by replying
     
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  2. jarboyp

    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    Everything you mentioned in this post can and will most likely be removed for HG.
     
  3. Champloo

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    I think it's just the best to go with the flow and update to 1.9. Eventually 1.8 will fall apart and cause many bugs.
     
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  4. ErectStick

    ErectStick Active Member

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    I at least want it away from HG
     
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  5. nezzr

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    As stated in other threads, yes Brawl will eventually update to 1.9, but there's no hurry to do so.
     
  6. GalaThundR

    GalaThundR Mcpvp Veteran

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    Brawl doesn't update, they lose players. Less players mean less profit. Less profit means no brawl. See where I'm going with this?
     
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  7. ErectStick

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    I agree, I think it is all about implementation. For example with the cool down feature in 1.9, Brawl could just make a plugin to not have a cool down. They should update, but get rid of some of the new features. I mean come on.... duel wielding swords is ridiculous
     
  8. supercandymax

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    Everything just feels modded and not like Minecraft, ruins the gaming experience. They should keep some servers on 1.8

    Not everyone likes 1.9
    New items? I think they will implement those
    Me Too
     
  9. jarboyp

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    It depends on what the community wants. Shields will probably get removed from HG because that makes towers really easy to take down.
     
  10. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    Rip pvp
     
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  11. Champloo

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    RIP Sword spamming*
     
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  12. supercandymax

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    It should stay 1.8 period

    Nobody likes slow paced turn based PvP

    Rip Minecraft

    Oh, yeah and XBox and PE will be ruined and you cant downgrade versions
     
  13. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    1.9 is a pretty iffy thing, they have quite a few unique things, my favorite being the gliders. But I do agree that the mod-like things are pretty dumb.

    Although this is true, can't we just grab some of them and leave the rest out? You could easily code to prevent players from obtaining the OP and useless things in 1.9. There also already has been a finding of how to change the PvP so that it's normal. The particles and everything else may be there, but the features and mechanics can be changed back. Although I say this, the change will probably take a while, and especially would be a pain for the AntiCheat. But other than that, I'm pretty much 60% 40%, I think we should do the change.
     
  14. supercandymax

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    I think the gliders are kinda fun, but still not minecraft-like. But i think if you update the server to 1.9, it should act like 1.8.
     
  15. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    *totally not self-advertising*

    I listed some ideas of how 1.8 servers can phase slowly into 1.9. The future may seem bleak in regards of updating, but worry not :grinning:.
     
  16. Nohox

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    The thread is built upon two main points of argument: 1. that Minecraft 1.9 doesn't feel Minecraft-like and more like a modpack, and 2. that the new combat system isn't as good as the old.

    Regarding 1: This is the typical reaction for every single Minecraft update. 'What they added doesn't feel right, it doesn't fit to Minecraft, Minecraft is ruined, lots of players will leave' etc. The same concerns were raised with the update to 1.7.2 (the biome update), 1.6 (horses n stuff), 1.0 (with the end), even back to beta 1.8 (hunger bar, xp) and probably even further. Of course it doesn't feel like Minecraft, because it is new. In the end, everything can be considered mod-like (for example, pistons prior to beta 1.7). I will predict that for 1.10, people will say the exact same thing, that it doesn't feel like Minecraft, breaks the game, will make players leave, that Minecraft is past its peak, and that some players will consider 1.9 to be their favourite update.

    On 2: I can understand this point, I'm not too sure what to think of the combat mechanics myself. It can be easily deactivated since Mojang left open this possibility, but testing it would allow to check on how well it is suited for multiplayer combat.

    However Brawl cannot stay on one version. If it does, other servers will eventually overtake Brawl, more and more people will be using 1.9+ and if they see they have to downgrade to join brawl, they will rather play on other servers.
     
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  17. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Whatever it is, Spigot announced that Mojang is very likely to release 1.9 tomorrow. And they're releasing 1.9 build (so developers can finally mess with 1.9 yussss, fun stuff :grinning:). Information iz here. 1.9 itself may not seem very promising, but what the developers can do seems endless.
     
  18. supercandymax

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    This does make sense in a way. But Listen to my side. 1. This update is extremely un minecraft-like, as it is tipped arrows, elytra, new end, new sounds, etc. and 2. You could make a fraction of the servers 1.8, for people like me and my friends and other fellow 1.9 dislikers
     
  19. GalaThundR

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    They wont make a seperate server for the minority of players that will stay in 1.8 after 1.9 comes out.
     
  20. jarboyp

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    My problem with the 1.9 cooldown is that it completely ruins soup PVP since you can only attack each other every 5 seconds. It makes soup so easy to use.
    That is why if Brawl upgrades to 1.9 the cooldown should be removed for the soup servers.
     
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