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Diamond Armor

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by Rehqb, Apr 18, 2016.

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Would you like to see this implemented into Wild West?

  1. Definitely!

  2. No I don't want to see Wild West more balanced.

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  1. Rehqb

    Rehqb Member

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    I know a lot of people are upset with the prices of Diamond armor being at a painstaking 49k! I would like to propose the idea that people should be able to buy Protection I, II, IV Diamond armor sets. This would balance out the sheriff vs player making them stronger and now you can't be 2 shotted by a sheriff or other player bringing more enjoyment to Pvp at rebel bases. This will also help balance out the economy by having more armor types for people to buy, but the armor comes with a price that is well worth it.

    If I am not mistaking, sheriffs are given the opportunity to buy "kevlar armor" making them stronger if they wish to be while on patrol. If they wish to do this they receive Protection I diamond armor giving them a better chance against heavily armored bandits.

    For Bandits here are the prices I have come up for the armor that you would be getting. Protection I would only be available for sheriffs thought.
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    Diamond Armor (Bandit Armor)

    Diamond Helmet | 3300
    Diamond Chest-plate | 8200
    Diamond Leggings | 6900
    Diamond Boots | 4600

    Bringing the grand total of Diamond armor to 23k!
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    Diamond Armor Protection I (Sheriff Armor) would only for sheriffs if they wanted to buy a set it would be 25k due to there ability to make money being way more difficult than other players.
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    Diamond Armor Protection II (Bandit Armor)

    Helmet | 6100
    Chest-plate | 12000
    Leggings | 10100
    Boots | 7800

    Bringing the grand total of Diamond Armor Protection II to 36k!
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    Diamond Armor Protection IV (Bandit Armor)

    Helmet | 10200
    Chest-plate | 19100
    Leggings | 17900
    Boots | 12800

    Bringing the grand total of Diamond Armor protection IV to 60k! This would be the best armor possible to obtain in the game and it would be well worth it, if a sheriff want's to stop you he better have back-up or his kevlar armor on!
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    I think not including Diamond Armor Protection III is better for the economy and players. This way you don't have 4 different armor types for the public but only 3. Diamond , II, IV (Good, Better, Best).
    This gives value to what you are buying and not just throwing 49k and some crap diamond you could easily be separated from. Please consider these ideas @Signatured as these are not set an stone ideas, but just a start to better and more enjoyable Wild West.

    Rehqb
     
    #1 Rehqb, Apr 18, 2016
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  2. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    Sounds interesting, but diamond is always bandit armour.
     
    #2 Serine1002, Apr 18, 2016
  3. RyGuy

    RyGuy developer man

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    I don't understand why the armor has protection. Wouldn't projectile protection be better?
    Anyways, I really don't like how OP this could get. Imagine Prot 4 diamond vs Prot 1 sheriff (iron) armor
     
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    #3 RyGuy, Apr 18, 2016
  4. Rehqb

    Rehqb Member

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    Protection Armor is the best armor for this it is a combined of all enchants like Projectile protection. Also this would not be that OP if a sheriff purchases Kevlar armor (Diamond Protection I and sheriff guns) that would equal out vsing a Bandit (Diamond IV and Illegals), and they still have the option to handcuff witch is the most OP of all.
     
    #4 Rehqb, Apr 18, 2016
  5. 18kss

    18kss All is within

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    Prot. IV armor would need to be raised about 40k more gold to even make this near balanced. You're basically invincible with that armor.
     
    #5 18kss, Apr 18, 2016
  6. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    So. . .nerf the cost of Kevlar. . .and change sold armor sets. Interesting idea.
     
    #6 SoullessAngel_, Apr 18, 2016
  7. Rehqb

    Rehqb Member

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    Just realized the price difference between Protection II and IV and changed the price of IV to 60k,
    and change Diamond to 24k while keeping Protection II the same.
     
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    #7 Rehqb, Apr 18, 2016
  8. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Because bandits aren't already hard enough to kill and sheriff aren't soft enough yet.
     
    #8 Sir_Inge, Apr 18, 2016
  9. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    Three sheriffs voted no, two drug lords voted yes.

    Settle in with your popcorn boys. . .
     
    #9 SoullessAngel_, Apr 18, 2016
  10. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Know how hard it is to kill someone who:
    a. Outnumbers you 2-1 in most cases
    b. Has better armor than you
    c. ALWAYS gets 1 free shot
    ?
     
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    #10 Sir_Inge, Apr 18, 2016
  11. Rehqb

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    A. and? that's the way it should be...
    B. Armor is even when sheriffs have Iron port 1 + you have better guns... why do you feel the need to be stronger than everyone else in the server when you shouldn't be.
    C. Your guns way better and can 1 shot a full diamond... that's why we need better armor so we don't get killed with 1 bullet, also you have the option to buy kevlar if you want too.

    LMAO... Hard enough to kill wow, 1 shot on a bandit in diamond is not "hard to kill" and if you within 5 blocks you can handcuff... I don't want to hear that it is that hard to kill someone/arrest them.

    Also look at the reward you get when killing them: a full set of diamond (that you can sell) and possibly some drugs you can get money for. All we get is a worthless sheriff head and any pocket change you have been carrying, not to mention you didn't have to work for your armor and guns. Wow you died now your just going to get the same **** you died with and go back to the same place you died at, forgot to mention you don't ever gain a bounty so you have never spent time in the slammer.

    Did I mention I'm still banned for no reason waiting for it to be revoked! I haven't even played so I'm not 100% sure on what all the things that were changed only just stuff I have seen on the forums...
     
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  12. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    If you don't like sheriffs to come back, try not killing them and running away?
    And by the way, sheriff guns do NOT one shot full diamonds under typical circumstances. Only far away headshots can 1 hit a diamond, while I have personally been 1 hit by a model at 5 blocks, a T-g at 20, and a T-g at 40. Not only that, but it's incredibly hard to survive TWO attacks. Try climbing a tower while being showered by 2 guns. Try being sniped from 2 directions. Sheriffs are already at a distinct disadvantage in all combat that isn't close quarters.
     
    #12 Sir_Inge, Apr 18, 2016
  13. Rehqb

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    Wow a sheriff died : they lost nothing and get showered with free armor and guns...
     
    #13 Rehqb, Apr 18, 2016
  14. TheTitaniumTitan

    TheTitaniumTitan Ex WW JMod and Wiki Team member. Bring back WW!

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    PROT 4 would get a bit OP like the rest tho
     
    #14 TheTitaniumTitan, Apr 19, 2016
  15. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    You think that we get to sell the guns if they're illegal? No
     
    #15 Sir_Inge, Apr 19, 2016
  16. RMST1

    RMST1 Ex-Mod I WarZ Noob

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    I wouldnt recommend diamond armour above prot 2.
     
    #16 RMST1, Apr 19, 2016
  17. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    I would be okay with prot. 1 for like 100k for all 4 pieces. But I'm still strongly against this idea.

    I'd like to point out that if you attack a sheriff, you should have a 50-75% chance of dying.
     
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    #17 Sir_Inge, Apr 19, 2016
  18. RMST1

    RMST1 Ex-Mod I WarZ Noob

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    Please just make your poll Yes or No, not something to make the no-voters feel "bad".
     
    #18 RMST1, Apr 19, 2016
  19. jarboyp

    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    Honestly, I believe that something about sheriffs is to be said by the amount of players who want to be sheriffs. Being a sheriff gives you free loot and makes a player really OP, even if they aren't that good at the game. In the old West sheriffs were outnumbered 20 to 1 by criminals, but they didn't have OP gear to help them with that. Instead, they had to use their intelligence and play gang rivalries against each other to be able to win the fight. Now, I'm not saying sheriffs should be as strong as a regular player, but their guns should only be slightly stronger than illegal guns and their armor should only be basic iron armor, maybe with a unbreaking enchant on it, especially since they spawn with that gear every time they die.
     
    #19 jarboyp, Apr 19, 2016
  20. RMST1

    RMST1 Ex-Mod I WarZ Noob

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    Signatured is working on balancing the equipments of both sheriffs and criminals. I can't tell you more.
     
    #20 RMST1, Apr 19, 2016
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