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The Wildwest Reset

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by Objectify, Apr 18, 2016.

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  1. Objectify

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    As many of you know Sheriffs have respawnable items those being items and armor. What many of you may or may not know is that a Sheriffs Armor is the equivalent to a bandits Full Diamond. Also the Gun damage on both snipers of the two classes are the exact same, but some recoil/fire-rates are different. Now with this new reset that occured drug prices are dropped by 1/2 and guns/armor cost went up by nearly 2 or 3x the price. To give an estimate of the price of Full diamond, Op guns, medicine, and ammo its a total of 98-99k which is a total of 3.25hrs of time. What i'm trying to say is that a Sheriff gets to get the same equipment as a setup player who has been processing for hours. Now that this situation is said I wouldn't suggest a gun debuff of any sort but rather a sheriff debuff.
    What this causes- This debuff will include the sheriffs starting as a regular players working towards their stuff just as other people do. They start off with full leather and the necessary items to arrest/inspect/jail. As time passes players will get more money/equipment and sheriffs will also get money. This means that whenever a sheriff arrests and jails a player for an illegal activity they receive the amount of illegal money they possess. EX: A player is killed in full diamond and has Model, the sheriff then picks up the item and sells it at the Sheriff HQ for the desired 8.5k or if ticketed the sheriff gets 8.5k immediately added to their wallet. Now you may ask what about unprocessed drugs? If a sheriff arrest a play with unprocessed they shouldn't receive money seeing as unprocessed drugs are just respawnable and could be exploited by sheriffs on alternative accounts. As sheriffs get money from arrest they can buy a /rankup alike to prison servers allowing them to upgrade their kits and spawn in with them. As they get money they can also buy weapons with appropriate price ranges b/c sheriffs respawn with them. So what I suggest is your WarZ 21 setup with the adjustment of classes from your hotbar
     
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  2. iEBKN

    iEBKN Well-Known Member

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    I don't think this is necessary at all. They have this "OP" stuff for a reason, they need to protect the innocent players.
     
  3. Risen_God

    Risen_God Active Member

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    If you have actually had any experience with this game, the majority of sheriffs tend to chase after people in processors instead of going to mines and actually protecting people. They take advantage of it because of their very strong kits that equivalent to that of diamond and they get it when they spawn in.
     
  4. RipeBannanas

    RipeBannanas Well-Known Member

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    Then you obviously haven't play the server when it reset last night...
     
  5. Rehqb

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    I feel like the players who process drugs or mine ores to get money should be getting better armor then the sheriffs that get it for free. For a price of 49k for a set of diamond equivalent to the protection of sheriff armor that they got for free... We should be getting Diamond Protection IV for that steal of a price that way making us not be one shotted by sheriffs that try to take advantage of their kit by constantly coming back to drug processors to kill people.
     
  6. iEBKN

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    Or I simply wait for a sheriff to leave the server and then I go process my drugs.
     
  7. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    To be accurate, drug prices dropped by 27%, legal gun prices were doubled and illegal gun prices tripled. The prices for armor were calculcated based on durability and armor points, but overall they increased by 200%.
    However, in reaction to the community feedback the diamond armor prices were decreased by 25%, the legal guns by 10% and the illegal guns by 15%.
    Thus a full set of diamond and a T-Gewehr + Model cost 72500, you need to process Wildgrass for 2.41 hours to get this much money.

    Sheriffs will for sure continue to spawn with combat equipment. However, it is true that with the increase of prices for bandit equipment the standard Sheriff kit might be a bit too good. Because of this we already decided to lower the standard armor to simple iron armor without enchantment with the option to upgrade to Protection II iron armor for money.
    The guns will either be nerfed or exchanged with legal guns, we are not sure about this point yet.

    Sheriffs need to spawn with good equipment because
    - they are usually outnumbered.
    - they can not attack first.
    - they usually need to rush in while the bandits can camp.
     
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  8. RipeBannanas

    RipeBannanas Well-Known Member

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    "- they usually need to rush in while the bandits can camp."
    All the Sheriff's has to do is to hold down the right click on the handcuffs...
     
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  9. Objectify

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    Simply to put this into small terms the only reason why players would complain is that Sheriffs don't work for their items. That's all
     
  10. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    This precisely. Sure they spawn with good gear, but like that does them any good. They can't KOS, which is a huge inhibitor. Literally, if you get hit once when fired upon, you pretty much have already lost. Sheriffs don't make much money, so they can't buy a ton of medicine to regain their health, which is another huge inhibitor.
    Until shot at, sheriffs are just zombies from war with better armor and no speed. The fact that all you have to do is click someone is actually a lot harder than it looks if people are camping somewhere.
     
  11. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    I can't say anything here since I've never tasted the life of a bandit.
     
  12. RipeBannanas

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  13. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    I've never fought a sheriff.
     
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  14. TheSinisterOne

    TheSinisterOne Goodbye

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    You shouldn't have to wait for a person to leave a server to excel in a game.
     
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  15. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    There are almost always sheriffs online.
     
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  16. Dsawemd

    Dsawemd Well-Known Member

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    The time it takes seems excessive, if that number is correct.

    This change has disproportionately affected non-donors. A non-donor has slower drug harvesting, slower processing, longer/farther access to Wildgrass, and slower horses.

    Over time, these advantages will build up and make playing this server without donating unattractive.
     
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