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Sheriffs too OP?

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by Trogy, Jun 2, 2016.

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  1. Trogy

    Trogy Huncho

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    Okay so I was just on Wild West, and I was hunting kids down, like usual. I killed a team of 5 at the poppy base, so I was rogue, and a sheriff was on, so I called my horse to try to escape. Unfortunately, the sheriff arrived before my horse did, so I was forced to engage in a fight. I shot the sheriff once, with the best and most expensive gun in the game, the T-Geweher. I landed one bullet, and to the full iron sheriff, I did around only 3 hearts of damage. 3 seconds later, I was dead; one shot killed to the sheriffs's rifle, the repeater. Did I mention that I was wearing full diamond armor? Well, I was, and I was one-shot.

    Now I get it, sheriff's are supposed to be powerful, they have to enforce the law...
    But if I am wearing better armor than the sheriff, using the most powerful weapon available to a normal player, why is it that I get one shot, but I only do 3 hearts of damage?
    Us normal players have to pay for our equipment, while sheriffs do not. They spawn with their gear every time.
    Diamond armor costs 32,000 gold, and the T-Geweher costs 13,000 gold.

    Thankfully, @aGuyInAsuite (The sheriff that killed me) was nice enough to sell me my diamond armor back for half the price it is worth. It was a very nice thing of him to do.

    Diamond armor in Wild West is supposed to be strong, as it is very expensive. It should protect you from all players, sheriffs too, but the purpose of diamond armor is ultimately defeated if you can just get handcuffed or one shot by a sheriff.

    I would like it if the sheriff's guns (especially their rifle), was nerfed a little bit. I am sure many other players will agree with me on this.
    Thank you.
     
  2. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    There is no way this actually happened as you put it. The repeater is as strong as the Gewher, so there is no way it did more damage. Sheriffs armor is also weaker than full D. In my experience, Gewher shots do 4.5 hearts of damage. (Headshots do more.)

    Players tend to think that sheriff gear is overpowered, but it really isn't. The Coach Gun is probably the only thing that is OP if anything. Models two hit sheriffs generally, and Gewhers can rack up massive damage as well. Sure, 1 full D might die to sheriffs, but 1 full D can die to anyone, especially if they have a Model (which is probably the best gun in the game with the exception of the Coach Gun). Seriously, sheriffs need to be somewhat good due to the fact that they are generally outnumbered. Two leathers with models is all it takes to kill a sheriff. Armor is the real issue. It's underpowered and expensive for how OP the guns are.
     
  3. aGuyInAsuite

    aGuyInAsuite Build Mod

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    I didn't exactly record my hearts, but I do know that it was 4 1/2 or 3 1/2 hearts. I did one shot him, which happens quite a lot (as @Eil knows).

    I think it needs very minor tweaks, not something drastic.
     
  4. Signatured

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    Sheriff armor is better than diamond.
     
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  5. iMingo

    iMingo Legendary Criminal

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    nah, iron is a bit worse than diamond, but for sheriffs, its not easy, players can get the first hit, so i don't think sheriffs are op at all

    one shot in full d, could be combo with 2 guns, have u thought about that?
     
  6. AnimeLoverVerlyn

    AnimeLoverVerlyn Well-Known Member

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    He just said that he one shot I Wear Trongs moron.
     
  7. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    Verlyn, that's not possible.
     
  8. AnimeLoverVerlyn

    AnimeLoverVerlyn Well-Known Member

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    @randomcitizen1
     
  9. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    Just because he thought he did doesn't mean that it's possible (unless there is a one-shot glitch, but I think that's pretty unlikely). :v
     
  10. iMingo

    iMingo Legendary Criminal

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    combo is the only way
     
  11. aGuyInAsuite

    aGuyInAsuite Build Mod

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    Hmm, I'm pretty sure I one shot him, he might have had previous damage.
    Just like how I've one shot Eil in leather (More plausible)
     
  12. iMingo

    iMingo Legendary Criminal

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    or trogs just made that up, mad
    u lucky bastard xD
     
  13. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    I'm fairly sure headshots with the repeater one-shot leathers.
     
  14. amazingallen234

    amazingallen234 Former Jmod | Wild West

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    I think it does with Indian armor too as I managed to one-shot PoixMine with my repeater and he was at full health with full Indian armor.

    @PoixMine can confirm this.
     
  15. PatrykSzczescie

    PatrykSzczescie Active Member

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    Take the advantage that sheriffs don't shoot first.

    Edit:// By the way I've just shot @amazingallen234 into head accurately with T-Gewehr once - had 4 hearts left he claims.
     
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  16. Dsawemd

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    There is a known issue where occasionally headshots do extra damage, taking a full 10 hearts off a full diamond player. It has been in-game since at least before the reset, when I first encountered it.
     
  17. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    If that really is the case, then I suppose the issue is not that sheriffs are OP, but that there is a bug where headshots do insane damage... Does this apply for non-sheriffs as well?
     
  18. Dsawemd

    Dsawemd Well-Known Member

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    I 1-shot a full diamond with a t-g, 10 to 0.
     
  19. Eil

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    I personally think the sheriff guns are too OP. As @aGuyInAsuite knows, I attacked him from behind when he was attacking a teammate at a rebel base, I came up behind him, managed 2 model shots at close range, then he turns and 1 shots me - I was in full gold. Every time I have ever been killed by a sheriff, it has always been a 1 shot. While I have never engaged a sheriff in diamond, I have in gold and of course leather, but regardless, I am always 1 shot.
     
  20. charlottethegirl

    charlottethegirl Ex- Party JMOD

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    I think you can just look at this 2 ways. Sheriff guns are illegals but obviously just you know... legal so are we also saying that our illegals are op? I am pretty sure they have the same stats. But the other way you can look at this is as @PatrykSzczescie said is we always (unless abusing) get the first shot. Now obviously this is not the best thing for the sheriff as maybe (Sheriff can clarify) can be 1 shot too so you could say that is op? I personally think it is not op since the fact is you get first shot, if you have the guns to fight you may win. If you get unlucky and you get 1 shot then you are unlucky.
     
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