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Sheriff Idea

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by pewgeon, Jun 3, 2016.

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  1. pewgeon

    pewgeon Well-Known Member

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    So most people think that sheriffs' guns are way too op, some people may disagree (mostly sheriffs) but from my experience most people think that they are too op. Well I have a way to fix this for the players and the sheriffs. (Listed below)
    Ok so my idea is too give the sheriffs new loot (not completely new but some new loot). My idea is to first off, lower the damage of the repeater to 1 damage above carcano. Second off replace that op shotgun they have with a different gun. I have seen many people complain about this shotgun. I think it should be a gun that wildwest usually wouldn't have but this one is different. For a replacement for the shotgun I was thinking a machine gun, completely exclusive to sheriffs. This gun would have 2 damage and it would have a fire rate a little more than the XM on minestrike on a different server I know (Not naming servers because I do not want to get banned). This only does 2 damage (1 heart) so it isn't the most op gun in the dang game but it would be reliable. Its accuracy would be like a P90 spray on minestrike (still not naming servers). This probably won't be added but if it is... I think less players would complain.​
     
  2. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I personally think a sheriff should be able to take out-gear a full diamond with illegals. It encourages more people to get into a team. Having a gun that is only slightly more powerful than the Carcano would be way too underpowered for sheriffs to fulfil their job and take out big teams that potentially have full diamond and the best illegal guns.

    As for the machine gun, this is never going to be added. Wild West is meant to have old guns, which is why there's no automatic SMGs or rocket launchers. Basic rifles (so no sniper rifles), pistols and shotguns only, really. And considering bandits get the model as their shotgun, I don't see a need to nerf the sheriff's shotgun.

    Honestly, sheriffs aren't as overpowered as people think. Bandits have access to extremely powerful guns, such as the model. If you have that, so long as you get the first hit on someone, you'll almost always win unless they out-gear you a lot. To take out sheriffs easily, let them get somewhat close to you, then start shooting them. You'll usually 3-4 shot them, and if you strafe, most of the time they won't be able to hit you enough times to kill you.
     
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  3. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    I already suggested automatic weapons, and currently, it would change the way pvp would be fought entirely.
    The guns are currently balanced just fine.
     
  4. Dsawemd

    Dsawemd Well-Known Member

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    This suggestion sounds like you play on another server and are already used to their guns and want to bring them here. Describing it in terms of "its like the one on that server I play" isn't really helpful to us.

    In my opinion, Sheriffs should be able to kill a Full Diamond player in 1 shot fewer than the player (with illegals) can kill a kevlar'd sheriff, but no gun should be able to one-shot a target from 10 to 0.
    If that's ^ not the current balance, it is rather close to it.

     
  5. aGuyInAsuite

    aGuyInAsuite Build Mod

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    As a sheriff, I can say that the guns are fifty fifty.

    If you happen to find CROW camping at a WG, with 4 people all with models, Mausers, and Carcanos, you would not say that they are overpowered. Now don't get me wrong I do think that you shouldn't be able to one shot diamonds. I don't think though that any sort of major nerf is needed.

    Most of the "It's OP" comes from the one guy at a processed, but for the most part sheriff is fine.
     
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  6. pewgeon

    pewgeon Well-Known Member

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    You're a sheriff, you don't know what it feels like to reck a sheriff and still get 1 shotted when you shot the sheriffs a bunch with a carcano. :V

    I do but I still play on wild west a huge amount of time so I am use to both.
     
  7. aGuyInAsuite

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    I was a bandit at one point, but that's not the point of this thread.

    Anyway, I feel that the Sheriff guns are fine, but maybe make the Damage drop off a little more prominent in the Coach.
     
  8. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    To my knowledge, the repeater matches the Gewher in strength, so I think it's fine. The Carcano is pitifully weak. A gun with slightly more damage and a lot lower rof would simply be too great of a nerf.

    I will agree with you that the shotgun is OP. If anything, the damage should be nerfed. I think more players would complain that sheriffs got an automatic weapon than they do currently about the shotgun.
     
  9. Dsawemd

    Dsawemd Well-Known Member

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    I think you missed the point of my post: vaguely saying "it will have a faster fire rate than this other server's gun" is useless.
     
  10. PatrykSzczescie

    PatrykSzczescie Active Member

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    You can do a slight chance like nerf sheriff guns by one point of damage and see how it works, if still complaining, slight chance once again and so on.



    Honestly, since I joined a team, I've been having trouble with sheriffs, more times getting arrested or shot.
     
  11. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    Increase the spread of the coach? It just fires this tight cluster of rounds from what I remember, unless it was changed. Pretty much what happened was if you hit the person, with that tight of a round spread, the player on the receiving end was screwed.
     
  12. aGuyInAsuite

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    What I think needs done is a damage drop off. I'm not sure if they already have this, but basically it makes it so the farther the target is, the less damage you do.

    I also think that the spray should be slightly increased with the Coach. I mean, it is a shotgun, and you should if you're a few feet away,

    Then comes the repeater. I honestly don't know. I think that the 1 hit kill bug has to be removed. Besides that, don't know what else to do.

    Why does no one every talk about the Pistol? Honestly one of the best weapons. It is a spray cannon, and I've raked up quite the kill streak with it.
     
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  13. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    I say keep the spread and nerf the damage. I love that things spread too much. It's what makes it unique. If the damage was nerfed enough, the lack of spread could be used against sheriffs by model users.
     
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