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1.8 or 1.9?

Discussion in 'Raid' started by chickenputty, Jun 3, 2016.

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Would you like Survival PvP to...

  1. Remain 1.8

    64 vote(s)
    71.9%
  2. Become 1.9

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    16.9%
  3. I don't care

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    11.2%
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  1. alleging

    alleging Well-Known Member

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    How about 1.7?

    Some people are saying that it would be a pain for people to switch versions just to play PvP. Meanwhile servers like HcTeams and KohiLion have many many more players than Brawl does. 1.9 will take the "PvP" out of Survival PvP.

    Now I do understand the whole thing about "needing a change" and all but what's more important here, change? Or the community? Seeming as most of the Survival community (Including me) want 1.7-1.8 it only seems logical to downgrade if Brawl wants to keep the playerbase (or increase it).

    BUT. If we do switch to 1.9 all I ask (possibly alongside others) is to add blockhitting and jitter. Basically the components of 1.7 pvp. And maybe add a 1.8 (and/or) add a 1.7 compatibility.

    As for keeping it 1.8, I'm completely fine with it. I don't really blockhit pvp as much as I used to.

    But honestly consider listening to the community. Don't be like Infinity Ward and get all the hate. This was just my opinion so don't start any flame as it is just my ideas. Thanks.
     
  2. Chopo

    Chopo Well-Known Member

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    Badlion is not the same as Brawl. First off, Brawl is not purely pvp based. Badlion, on the other hand, is. Badlion can afford to stay compatible with all kinds of clients because all of its player base is there to do the same thing, pvp. Brawl is not here for you to just pvp on. There's plenty of servers such as war, that have no need to be compatible with 1.7.

    I don't think it's worth the hassle to keep one of Brawl's many servers on another version strictly because spvp's player base wants to click faster. Although that's an exaggeration, it's true. All of the players who want to stay in 1.7/1.8 are asking to do so because 1.9 pvp is "boring" and "slow." Well, guess what? Minecraft pvp has changed a lot. We used to not be able to sprint, block or even strafe efficiently. Minecraft is going to keep changing. There's nothing you can do about that. As Putty stated:
    There's also the possibility of keeping the server 1.7/1.8/1.9 compatible, but I don't see that happening. Plus, what happens a couple of months/a year later whenever there's updates past 1.9? Is there even a way to keep servers compatible with the newest version (1.9+) while also using a 1.7/1.8/1.9 profile? I don't know.

    One more thing, I haven't played spvp in a while. That doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm one of the few people who wants to see Brawl upgrade spvp to 1.9 because frankly, it's getting stale. I just need something new and I'm sure others do, as well but aren't speaking up because there's hardasses like y'all trying to keep the game limited to a specific update.
     
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  3. alleging

    alleging Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that's a logical answer to why 1.9 supporters aren't speaking out. And yes Brawl IS getting stale because the community is not getting what they want.
     
  4. chickenputty

    chickenputty License & registration?

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    You have to actually run the lowest version of compatibility as what the server actually is. So if we were going to have 1.7, we would be missing out of the ~2 years or whatever amount of features that have been added to the game. I don't think we are capable of even supporting 1.7 with our current busy developers as it is an insane amount of work.

    That's why I'd like the focus to be on 1.8 with cross compatibility or 1.9. If 1.7 is going to actually gain us that much more players, it's worth looking into I suppose. You have to think of how many people automatically update to 1.9 and expect everything to work too. As time goes on less and less people play the old versions.
     
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  5. alleging

    alleging Well-Known Member

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    Well according to the HcTeams and KohiLion playerbase more and more people are playing older versions :wink:
     
  6. Chopo

    Chopo Well-Known Member

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    Well, yes. Although, those servers have that player base because players are staying in older versions strictly because of pvp. That would probably not be the case for Brawl bc it is a completely different server.
     
  7. ultrapunisher97

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    oracle do u know nothing? LOL. I litteraly have the entire server of survival PvP watching my youtube series on it. I myself do prefer 1.7. 1.8 already screwed pvp hard enough. However 1.9 took pvp and shoved it up a turtles A$$HOLE. like common oracle. You don't even pvp, and its a pvp server. so please stfu

    Daaaannnnggggg FrostByte, You get it boyyyyyy. That litteraly couldn't be anymore true. well said. You have my vote!
     
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  8. LegitMonkeyftw

    LegitMonkeyftw Well-Known Member

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    Did you even play war back then? I played war back when the server was 1.7 too, everyone loved it, when brawl first updated war to 1.8 it was awful it was lagging every second for a about a week, which in that case lost a lot of players. Don't you see that whenever brawl updates to 1.8 they lose players and that exact thing is happening to right now with spvp, if it goes to 1.9 it will lose a lot of players, I have friends irl that don't play brawl becuase it's 1.8, now imagine what will happen when it updates to 1.9 And yes I'm being a "hardass" when it comes to this becuase this is the first time brawl has given us a say with what we want. I'm pretty sure that @ExpertZJP and @Lozzylouise would agree that when brawl got rid of sg without a vote from the community it was devastating. That server was big and really fun it was another community inside an already bigger community. Then they got rid of it and never added it back, now they have hg, a server no one plays and it's just there. Now excuse my rant but now that the community is finally getting a say in what they want we're being called "hardasses" for actually putting their opinions out there says a lot. I don't mean to flame and I'm sorry if it seems like this but I've been playing brawl for a while now, since 2013 and now that they give the community a voice is great.
     
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  9. Compability

    Compability Well-Known Member

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    Please don't destroy the server, players from ALPHA of Survival PVP will quit and then all these noobs will join, you buy a rank if you know the server much and enjoy it, noobs won't enjoy it. Maybe in a week or so they will but then when they will understand how 1.9 destroyed the pvp, and how boring it is too play minecraft they will just quit, you will not win anything on it. Make it 1.8 compatible so LEGENDS don't quit, I mean if you have 1.9 I guess the average player total will go down to like 20.
     
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  10. Jahada457

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    1.8 I thought it was a obvious vote?
     
  11. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    Stop looking at 1.7 as out of date, look at it as a pvp version if it was out of date some of the biggest servers wouldn't be using it. The people who buy ranks on survival pvp are not the noobs, they are the loyal pvpers and trackers who want 1.7/1.8. Any 1.8 survival player who remembers 1.7 pvp or just has played kohi in 1.7 Knows the difference between the combat system and want 1.7 for pvp. And if you are complaining about having to switch version most of the pvpers already switch version to play kohi in 1.7 (it's better for pvp)
     
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  12. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    I don't think you understand that the pvping can be fixed. It isn't just a pvp server either. Of course I know it's a huge part of it, but there is also the survival aspect of it. 1.9 would bring new features to that aspect. 1.9 pvp can also be fixed. What is your concern if pvping can be fixed then?
     
  13. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    If it was fixed would it be laggy? if its any worse than 1.8 is for pvp its not worth updating to for the new features.
     
  14. alleging

    alleging Well-Known Member

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    Why do you think the thread is in the Survival PvP section then m8 :O
    Please do not be disrespectful (@0racle I gotchu)
     
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  15. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    I don't believe it would be laggy at all either way. It wouldn't make sense why it would cause lag. The pvp can be restored back to 1.8s from what I have seen.
     
  16. alleging

    alleging Well-Known Member

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    Oh hot damn baby you smart
     
  17. Doges

    Doges Ex-Mod, Ex-Builder

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    If there's already popular 1.7 servers, why should we try and copy instead of making something unique? People used to do the exact same thing when MC kept getting updated past 1.2.5, and eventually the playerbases dwindled, even if the server had initially had a good start. All keeping it on 1.7 would do is keep some current players, instead of attract new ones as well as retaining some current ones.
     
  18. IBK_Moon

    IBK_Moon Active Member

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    If the staff is so against 1.7 and their ego is more important than the communities needs, why don't they just make one 1.7 survival, and another 1.8 or 1.9 surrvival. I am pretty sure everyone would be on the 1.7 unless you don't try on it at all like Treyarch did to last gen consoles with Black ops 3
     
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  19. charlottethegirl

    charlottethegirl Ex- Party JMOD

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    2 things. I do not enjoy 1.9 pvp, it just isn't enjoyable waiting for strikes and I just prefer spam clicking. Secondly, every time I load up 1.9 my minecraft crashes so I wouldn't be able to play :stuck_out_tongue:.
     
  20. Doges

    Doges Ex-Mod, Ex-Builder

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    No, that would split the community, which is NOT what we want as a server needing players. It is better to have 1 server with 50 people than two with 25.
     
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