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Why can't Brawl support 1.7?

Discussion in 'Raid' started by chickenputty, Jun 6, 2016.

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  1. chickenputty

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    Hello,

    We are very aware that the PvPers in the Brawl community really would like PvP focused servers to remain on Minecraft version 1.7. We do indeed hear you guys, however, we need to simply explain how this isn't feasible for us to perform at the current moment.

    All of our internals and backend rely on our custom Spigot build. This build is currently updated to the version 1.8.9 and contains a plethora of things that allow Brawl to perform. If we were to attempt to run a regular Spigot 1.7 server, it wouldn't even be possible for us to add it to Brawl; or even to have cross server PMing, our rank system, our ban system, etc. Our systems rely on our Spigot build that much.

    There are larger networks out there that are supporting 1.7-1.9 on the same server; we do understand this. Those networks are mainly PvP based and thus have the resources and time to do such a thing.

    With Brawl not being a solely PvP server only, we simply cannot dedicate the resources that it would require for us to recode and modify everything to be able to run a 1.7 server. This would cost us hundreds of developer hours and thousands of dollars.

    At the current moment, our backend development is focused around becoming EULA compliant in order to keep Brawl up. If we were just to switch to trying to support 1.7, it could even mean the death of Brawl.

    It is very frustrating to see players think we are just going against what we know they would love to see. We are aware that you want 1.7! We simply cannot do it at the current moment and we truly hope you understand. This is one of the more complex things to discuss with all levels of players.

    If we could we would - most definitely.

    Thanks,
    Brawl Staff Team (and especially the developers)
     
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  2. NomNuggetNom

    NomNuggetNom Professional Breaker

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    Above information provided in part by me.
     
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  3. LegitMonkeyftw

    LegitMonkeyftw Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info I guess, but this still won't stop most oft the community to push forward and try to get 1,7. Why not just reuse the codes from when brawl was already 1.7? Do you not have those?
     
  4. chickenputty

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    Our network and servers have advanced from then. When we were running 1.7, we were not running the custom build, which is the main part. Thus, having to go back to support it would be where most of the resources would be going into.
     
  5. LegitMonkeyftw

    LegitMonkeyftw Well-Known Member

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    I know this is off topic but spvp is having a lag-fest, current gamepseed is fluctuating from 5-80%

    Thanks for making this thread
     
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  6. chickenputty

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    @Ktar5 has been working on a completely new version of the Survival plugin in hopes to address all lag issues. This is also why we have been "ignoring" fixing sponges. The lag-fest is pretty impossible to resolve without the full recode.

    More information will be out #soon.
     
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  7. LegitMonkeyftw

    LegitMonkeyftw Well-Known Member

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    The last time I heard #soon was back in 2014 when rumors spread about war 2.0
     
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  8. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    hang tight legit. We got this. Vanta is strong. They've survived without sponges and they'll survive until the new spvp. ^-^
     
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  9. LegitMonkeyftw

    LegitMonkeyftw Well-Known Member

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    It's not that, it's mostly that all of us were hoping for 1,7
     
  10. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    I know. And we really do apologize for that. We try our best to listen to the community about things like this, we really do. It just isn't financially possible right now.
     
  11. FrostByte

    FrostByte EST, Jan 19th 2014

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    I'm just glad you could make a thread regarding the 1.7 issue and telling us what you guys are having problems with, we didn't understand because you wouldn't tell us the whole story, It seems going to back to 1.7 is harder than we all think. It's not you guys' faults just because its simply takes too much time and money which you guys don't have much of at the moment I can tell. Maybe in the future you guys can make only Survival PvP 1.7. Also, I hope you understand us @chickenputty, We just want the old McBrawl back, It was the best days ever and it went too soon, Now we've been stuck with 1.8 with the bugs/glitches Which we didn't know would be ever fixed to be honest until you said @Ktar5 is working on coding the server.
    Lets hope 1.7 will come in the future... until then, Keep it 1.8 atleast please...
     
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  12. Compability

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    Thanks for explaining why we can't go back to 1.7, but as Frost stated above, if you aren't gonna get 1.7 atleast stay 1.8, that shouldn't be so hard and that is what the majority of the SPVP community wan't right now (after 1.7).
     
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    Turmac Hardcore Games Enthusiast

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    War: PvP
    WarZ: PvP
    HG: PvP
    CTF: PvP
    Slither: PvP
    Party: PvP (in a sense)
    Wild West: PvP
    KitBrawl: PvP
    SurvivalPvP: Has it in it's name :stuck_out_tongue:
    Only 2 servers are not PvP: Build and Creative.

    I understand what you mean though. Plugins that we have for these servers are not 1.7 compatible and we'd have to start from scratch with brand new coding for every server
     
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  14. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid & Events Manager

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    Why don't code the 1.7 PvP. It would probably be easy. And not cost much.
     
  15. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    1.9 with 1.8/1.7 pvp, best solution imo.
     
  16. chickenputty

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    The thread that you didn't read addresses this.
     
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  17. SillyPickles

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    You're obviously very observing
     
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  18. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    why is creative 1.7 then?
     
  19. chickenputty

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    It's magic that creative still works to any degree. You can't cross server PM, we can't update it, none of the new ranks/changes are on it, etc.

    Its running very old systems that let it to connect to our bungee system at best. We cannot replicate this for Survival as we have to be able to update it.
     
  20. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Does this mean we'll see creative shutting down soon? Not only is it running into issues but build is beginning to replace it, so I wouldn't be surprised.
     
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