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Discussion in 'Wild West' started by iMingo, Jun 17, 2016.

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  1. iMingo

    iMingo Legendary Criminal

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    lol, does anyone know why sheriffs will come back over and over again? they don't lose anything at all, and they can call backup, their guns can one shot us, they can come back many times as they want for us, and our only choice is to log, and we don't want to do that because we aint the people who's scared to fight that will log, the sheriffs can keep up at the place forever, not everyone have the speed horse, what if the player only got a runner? he got no choice else than get killed, its only the matter of time, when sheriffs call backup, 6 sheriffs v some players, imagine 6 guys who can one shot u in full d rushes at u, u die no matter what u have! and why are there so many sheriffs? if there are only 1-2 active , skilled, smart, none-abusing sheriff, the game would be way more fun, when there is more than 2 sheriffs online, no one can do anything else than mining, people will go to mines, u get killed there, then someone become rogue, then its a fight, but fight over an iron pickaxe or somethin worth none necessary at all? no! then the abusing noob sheriffs will come and one shot u no matter what, then whats the point of this game? the goal is to make money, but i don't see a way to make money other than lose more, a basic setup gear = 7~10k (a carcano + ammo + extra stuff) u can barely get that money back in a mining run, and look at what ur risking, the lives of ur horses, ur gun supply, the loot from the run, why would this game be fun if there are way too many sheriffs? If u think go on a rogue hunt is a good idea, then ur wrong, when u go on a rogue hunt, u bring a good gun with u, or 2 if u wanna, mostly players play with teams now, if one of them is in rogue, the rest of them play as body shields, u hit one of them, u become rogue, and they just run away like what they are, and they keep running, their rogue guy's rogue will run out, and u get caught for being a rogue, if there are 2 sheriffs, my team can easily fight them and kill them, that makes the whole server safe to do things, if there are 2-3 sheriffs, the server will be pretty safe to do stuff, if there are 4-5 sheriffs, my team would just leave, that makes the players in the server can't do anything, everyone would just be sitting in towns, gambling money at the bartender, risking everything to mine, wasting time doing nothin, i understand, if there is no sheriffs, the game is almost like warz, but is groups of noob sheriffs really needed? The reason why do most players want to be sheriffs: they are too bad at the game, so they can't play as a bandit, they get killed all the time, so they want revenge, that means they have a bit chance to abuse, and they want more gear for their friends, they can just abuse and make the players shoot them then they can just kill the player and bring the loot to their team for the bandits in their team to use, some sheriffs make their own team with themselves in it to just proof that they don't have any friends, he's all clean, he won't abuse for stuff, but who is dumb enough to believe that? what kind of sheriffs are these? do we need these sheriffs? we only need decent amount of none-abusing sheriffs to make the game more interesting, but look at this game now, 5 sheriffs online all the time, when a big character makes a move, they call backup, instantly 7 sheriffs in game, and u were just like "i don't want to play this anymore" The sheriffs got no fighting skill, thats why big characters hunt/kill them, if they have skill and they don't abuse, who is gonna hunt the sheriffs? and if they have skill, who would even fight back if they know they are going to lose? My friend KittyKatey play this game 24/7, she got denied for "not enough in game experience" does that make any sense? i got denied for "immature" its true, i say usually say "ez" after a fight, almost every warz player does that, 18kss can just come out and tell me "u cant say that if ur a sheriff" then ill stop, and do u have to be so mature on a game? this is minecraft, I'm here to not be the irl me, i just want to be free in this game, and i get called as "immature", the good players get denied, how can this server even be fun anymore? if this doesn't change, i don't think wildwest is ever going to be fun again ever, if the game keep running like this, the server won't be alive ever again like before.
    Post ur thoughts in the comments
    #MakeWildWestGreatAgain!
     
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  2. Paul

    Paul Well-Known Member

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    please split this up into legible paragraphs, thanks.
     
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  3. 18kss

    18kss All is within

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    So... Your point is that the current sheriffs are bad?

    Things will be changing soon.
     
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  4. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    Kinda off-topic, but this sounds great when you set the voice to Daniel (UK) and have it read some of it to you on this website.

    I actually read all of this, so for those of you who are wondering:

    TL;DR
    i hate all sheriffs bc they abuse and suck at everything and ruin wildwest and they all noobs and they kill my team after my team kills one of them.

    It's true that the rogue system needs adjusting. Instead of staying at a base after killing a sheriff, why not split up and run? Have the rogues give any non-rogues their gear. Or just store the gear in a horse. There are ways to make it difficult for sheriffs to kill your team. Staying in the base with 3-4 sheriffs on is suicide.
     
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  5. crazybombguy

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    I'm having a horrific flashback of something. And it's really hurting. It's called Uncle Toms Run-on sentences...erm I mean cabin...but really...I read it and I really am like "wait...i missed that". Just saying though, I actually got it...it was just too hard to resist. However, I understand. I have also seen how impossible it's been for you guys. There have been many active sheriffs. I take pity...and I honestly would probably be not much better in your shoes.
    Sorry...
     
  6. Ritzy

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    @Mario I translated it for you.

    Lol, does anyone know why all sheriffs come back after they die just over and over again? They don’t ever lose anything! Also they call for back-up which is annoying as their guns can one shot us. They can come back whenever they want wherever they want, to the point we have to log. The sheriffs can stay at the place we were forever and wait for us there, we don’t also all have speed horses like sheriffs so it is hard to escape so we will die instead. When a sheriff calls backup it is impossible to fight, imagine 6 people who can 1 shot you all at once, impossible. The game would overall be more fun with only 1-2 active ones; skilled, smart and non abusing. When 2+ sheriffs come online no one can do anything else rather than legal stuff, if you do illegal activities you go rogue which is when you would fight, but it would be over something simple like an iron pickaxe which isn’t worth anything. No! Because then the abusive sheriffs come in and kill you for the pickaxe! The goal is to make money and it is almost impossible to do so because you lose more than you make. Basic setup = 7-10k (a carcano + ammo + extra stuff) you can barely get that money back in 1 mining trip, and look what you are risking in doing it, the lives of your horse and you with your loot! How can it possibly be fun with more sherifs? If you think that going on a rogue hunt is a good idea, you’re wrong… When you go on a rogue hunt you bring a good gun with you or 2 if you want. Mostly players are also with their team so if one of them is rogue you are bound to die because they will all shoot you. If not they will shield him so that when you shoot you miss and shoot his friends and become rogue yourself and then you’re a criminal so they can shoot you. If there was only 2-3 sheriffs the server would be pretty safe to do things. However 4-5 sheriffs my team and others will leave. 4-5 sheriffs means that the people playing wild west cannot do anything illegal, they would just sit in towns, gamble money at the bar, risking their gear at mines and waste time doing nothing. I understand if there are no sheriffs the game would be like warz, but it is full of groups and no noob sheriffs are really needed… The reason why most players want to be sheriffs is because they are too bad at the game and are always gettings killed by others so want an easy way to get revenge with given gear in the sheriff spawn kit. They also want it to abuse for their friends by getting them loot and money because they can kill whoever they want abusively. Some sheriffs also make their own team for themselves only just to prove that they really have no friends so he/she won’t abuse for anyone, but who is dumb enough to believe that!? One of the main people in team CROW quit the team and make his own team just to ‘prove’ that he wasn’t abusing for his team. What kind of sheriffs do this? Do we need these sheriffs? We only need a decent amount of non-abusing sheriffs to make the game more interesting, but also look at the game now; 5 sheriffs online at all times so when a big player makes a move the sheriffs call back-up and instantly 7 sheriffs are in the game, you’re just left like “I don’t wanna play this anymore” the sheriffs haven’t got any fighting skill which is why they are hunted by big players and killed. If they have no skill they don’t abuse and besides that who is gonna hunt the poor sheriffs? Also if they have no skill who would even fight back if they knew they would get 1 shot. My friend KittyKatey plays this game 24/7 she got denied from sheriff for 'not having enough in-game experience’ does this make sense? I got denied for being ‘immature’ yes, it’s true but I only usually say ‘ez’ after a fight almost like every warz player… 18kss can just come on and tell me “You can’t say that if you’re a sheriff” Then I will stop! All you have to be is mature ingame? This is minecraft! I’m here to be the real me! I just want to feel free in this game, and I get called ‘immature’, the good players also get denied. How can this server even be fun anymore. If this doesn’t change I don’t think wildwest is ever going to be fun again, ever. If the game keeps going on like this the server will die out quickly like it did before. Post your thoughts in the comments. #MakeWildWestGreatAgain.
     
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  7. iMingo

    iMingo Legendary Criminal

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    sheriffs spawn in sheriff stations near towns, out goal is to run to the town, and player's horse is slower, running aint an option, whoever is not in rogue has almost nothin thats why that player didn't attack, the sheriffs shoot the easier target first, so yea, not an option too, its just too hard, Cards has the around the same size as crow, and we are not doing easy, think about other noob teams, think about how dead they are on the same situation

    i hope the "soon" won't be vanish
     
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  8. randomcitizen1

    randomcitizen1 The schizophrenic swagmoneymillionaire

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    Sheriff horses are barely faster, so running is an option if far away at bases like Coco. At close bases like Poppy or Shrooms, you could actually get to the town if the sheriffs don't have a premium horse, therefore that is an option. And a lot of the times, sheriffs die before all the team members can go rogue, so loot dumping is still an option. Splitting up multiple rogues is also an option.
     
  9. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    This is titled stats as you see them now, yet it's technically a rant about sheriff abuse? I don't understand.
    Protocol changes inbound.

    Also, you have to remember that these sheriffs are either brand new or still learning, and that the sheriff guns require a different playstyle from the sprayey model and the snip snip Gewehr that we are all used to.
     
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  10. Miraculate

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    Hurts to read...but
    #MakeWildWestGreatAgain
     
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  11. charlottethegirl

    charlottethegirl Ex- Party JMOD

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    If it makes you feel better @JokerDoflamingo, Glock and Poix will soon be demoted...
     
  12. Dsawemd

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    If there are overzealous sheriffs, start trolling them. Go melee two noobs to death, then ride a speed horse to some corner of the map. Prepare your /kill in the chat bar. As soon as you see the sheriff, /kill yourself. They will have wasted a fair bit of time chasing you for no reward, except perhaps your head.

    Its best to do a thousand blocks past a rebel base. Do it a few times and sheriffs will stop tracking you as much, since they know your just a trolly Rogue.

    If a sheriff is killed while you are at a base, leave the base. Just like in real life, killing the cops does not make them go away, it only brings more cops.

    Remember, the way you win over a sheriff, who has Free armor, Free guns, and a Free 0.4 speed horse (2nd best in-game) is VALUE. You beat them by denying them any fun, while still making some money yourself. Their overpowered kit means that in a fair fight by numbers of players, the sheriff side will dominate.

    If you are having trouble with overzealous sheriffs, once you kill the sheriff, store all your illegal items in horses and wait for them to come back, then when you see them outside your window coming to get you, laugh in chat and /kill.

    Keep the sheriffs that you don't like bored, feel free to pvp with sheriffs that you do like.
     
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  13. StarZManZ

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    So with this thread you want to hate at sheriffs right? Next time you are going to flame at me spell my name right. It's StarZManZ not StarZmanZ. At all I think this was really inmature of you to make this thread. I gave you some tips in game how you could be a more mature player and the thanks I get is a thread that say that me and some sheriffs are bad? @TwisterPvP and @amazingallen234 is super good sheriffs and if you think someone abuse please report them to 18kss. Do not make a hate thread to them.
     
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  14. AnimeLoverVerlyn

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    The senario you spoke of had Grapplings and me entering the processor with legal items. No drugs, no Gewehrs. There were three illegal players hanging around the bottom floor of the processors. After Twister had gone in and handcuffed us, he found out that we were completely legal, so the three of us went in to engage the illegals. There was a fight, yada yada, and the outcome was a stuck TwisterPvP, who asked in global to be killed, which Grapplings did, which was what caused his Rogue timer to be set.

    Also, on the topic of your maturity, you are usually disrepectful in chat, which includes your ridiculous namecalling and your constant disrespect to the majority of the Wild West Community. You can't really dismiss that, and still call yourself mature.
     
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  15. Cheezpiza

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    100% Correct Sheriffs need a debuff. Currently there are 23 players and 5 sheriffs online
    4.6 players/ Sheriff, and because They have the ability to re-spawn instantly after death (with a full set of guns), they can just keep coming back in a fight with no chance of your rogue timer going away. Meanwhile players, after death have to get out of jail and acquire guns once again after death which often takes more than 2 minutes.

    Sheriffs need to have a re-spawn timer of at least 2 minutes.
    Even Sheriffs agree with this, because its completely fair.
     
  16. AnimeLoverVerlyn

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    Two minutes does seem like a fair time.
     
  17. amazingallen234

    amazingallen234 Former Jmod | Wild West

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    Next time, please spell my name right. I was only accepted a couple of weeks ago and I am still learning how to use the sheriff gear correctly. However, I am starting to practice a bit to get better at gun PvP.

    You say that but last night when I was the only sheriff online you asked me in a PM to leave. Why ask a single sheriff who "doesn't know how to fight" to leave? Why ask me to leave if 1-2 sheriffs can easily be killed by you or your team?

    On topic, this thread was very immature of you to make. Me and other people have seen you say "ez" after a fight. You applied for sheriff, yet you hate the sheriff team and even go as far as to call them "noobs". I don't see how you can call yourself mature when all people see from you in-game is hate and disrespect towards sheriffs and the entire server.
     
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  18. PatrykSzczescie

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    Please, let Poix demote just after I get his head. :frowning:


    EDIT:// I've just got his head, you may demote him. :grinning:
     
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  19. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    We will be demoted how? I have heard nothing of this, please do not spread false information.
     
  20. iMingo

    iMingo Legendary Criminal

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    aint hard to kill you, just annoys us, we risking our processing time on u with a handcuff, hard to protect alts, we inside and u have an op shotgun + handcuff, doesn't seem fair does it? then what about mafia pay off cops? if i toss 100k onto your face, u would have to leave lol
     
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