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Discussion in 'Ideas' started by PorkChops30, Jun 23, 2016.

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Should this be added?

  1. NO!

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  2. YES!

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  3. Yes, if some changes are made(list below)

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  1. DarkTitan_

    DarkTitan_ Ex War and News Manager

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    Well if you think it'll work, go ahead and try it xD

    I will leave, and many others would too
     
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  2. PorkChops30

    PorkChops30 Well-Known Member

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    I think you have a exaggerated idea of how radical this idea is. If you go to the thread evil was talking about (make war great again)and look at his data, you will see there were 9 players on that were not 30+ out of 28. The server is already dominately 30+.
     
  3. DarkTitan_

    DarkTitan_ Ex War and News Manager

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    And your right, 30+ is not hard to achieve, but those people getting there won't have as much fun. When I was a nooby on War 3 years ago, I looked up the the snails and the sjukas. They were fun to have around <3
     
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  4. CptJackSwagg3r

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    I don't agree at all, war is not a complex game. A stat reset is all i could ever ask for. This isn't starcraft or halo wars, this is firing guns. the learning curve couldn't be easier
     
  5. PorkChops30

    PorkChops30 Well-Known Member

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    I can't imagine mc war being fun right now for new comers. Imagine how frustrating the game is for them right now.

    The thing is... A stat reset would make all those people who played for years to get where they are at(including myself who is almost lvl 100) instantly rage quit.
     
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  6. DarkTitan_

    DarkTitan_ Ex War and News Manager

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    We should continue this over PM, lol we are gumming up this thread xD
     
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  7. PorkChops30

    PorkChops30 Well-Known Member

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    i agree it isn't a complex game. However it is still a game of skill. In gungame for example, even with every person starting with the same gun, you will always see the lvl 100+ or 60+ win. New comers will likely not get past shotgun.
     
  8. Lekosa1

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    I don't think the players quit because they can't get any kills.

    How come this didn't happen before? The situation was quite the same late 2013-late 2015.

    and I don't think 30+ players playing together would be enjoyable for anyone: you'd get 2 kills and die.
     
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  9. PorkChops30

    PorkChops30 Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't here for half of 2014 and most of 2015 but all I know is. When I came back, war had little people.
     
  10. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    Segregation went out of style in the 60's.

    New players and veteran players should play together.
     
  11. CptJackSwagg3r

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    Then gameplay should be tweeked to make it easier for newer players so they don't quit
     
  12. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    Should we give everyone orange slices and medals for 8th place too....
     
  13. PorkChops30

    PorkChops30 Well-Known Member

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    no. New players can't compete with veterans. Imagine playing a game where most players are already extremely good with op weapons.
     
  14. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Please come up with your own ideas and try to improve others instead of just saying no whitout reason.
     
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  15. CptJackSwagg3r

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    Don't be a jerk, An equal field for new players is nothing new in video games, especially ones that have a growing player base.
     
  16. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    The reality is there will always be someone better than you. The argument about level has flaws. What if we did create a server for new players to play each other. Everyone has an Alt and they would take their alt and wipe the floor with nubs on this "special server."

    This idea just sounds silly.

    Players learn from watching more experienced players both the good and the bad.

    As a new player, I loved watching my experienced player take on their experienced player in game and I tried to help any way I could. I learned to cover my guys, when to rush, when to hang back, how to control a map, and so on.

    Similarly to @DarkTitan_ I played with players who were way better than me at the time and I looked up to players like @SpeedBreaker (with his Jolly Roger Cape), @Snail_5_ , @meltingangel @Lekosa1 , @Queen_Shine , @EmperorCreeperIV , @robertwarshot , @tupaq19 , @Striker_Sly and you know what I learned from all of them. They made me a better player.

    Put your big boy pants on and play with the big boys.
     
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    #56 MR_EVIL_OVERLORD, Jun 24, 2016
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  17. CptJackSwagg3r

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    Nobody is talking about skills levels, this game is very easy to learn. In this thread were addressing the issue of extremely powerful weapons that high level players have that low players don't which leads to an unfair advantage. So theres no reason to type a couple paragraphs about skill level because no one has a problem with that. Iv'e seen every comment on this thread and none of them have a problem with player skill levels so your last comment seems to have just come out of the blue.
     
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  18. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    So even though everyone else has learned to play with more experienced players and their weapons...you want a free pass.

    I see how it is.
     
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  19. CptJackSwagg3r

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    I really can't tell if your trolling or not, Mc-war is not growing at all so it leads me to believe that new players are not learning how to play against high level players so what makes you think that they are? Having 25 players on average for a month is not growth.

    And I would appreciate if you explained to me what a "free pass" is since you use that phrase so often.
     
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  20. PorkChops30

    PorkChops30 Well-Known Member

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    The idea of everybody having an alt is silly. The truth is, every day dozens of newcomers join and quit. This division would increase the people who stay by a large amount. I don't see how that is silly. War has a population issue and you are simply shooting down ideas that try to address this problem. If you think this idea is silly, make a idea that is a better and smarter solution.

    I'm guessing you started around 2013 because I didn't see you before I quit. Here are some advantages you had over the new players of today.
    1. Ray came out mid 2013. When you started playing, it was not as widespread yet. Half of the players in infect didn't have ray back then, only 1-5 out of 40.
    2. Barret. You might have joined after the barret nerf but my main motivation back then was to get to level 17 to get barret. That's the gun that served me well until it got nerved when i was around lvl 30.
    3. There were more people. You weren't facing playing in a game where 70% of the player base is 30+. Back then, it there were much more -30 then 30+.
    4. Lower clan requirements. HACK and GSG were 25 and 20+ respectively. FLUX was 30+. Nowadays, PR0 is 50+ and GSG is 30+.
     
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