Segregation

At this point war is like any Cod game that has been out for a month, Everyone has all the weapons and gadgets and are max level. You're going to get your butt served to you on a brand spanking new shiny sliver spoon, and you're going to keep eating off that spoon for the rest of the time you play.

All the older players who don't want to only play against 30+ are scared of losing their oh so wonderful KDR.

If war is kept the same with all these one shot weapons then this gamemode is going be even more dead then it is today.

Mc-war is the new minestrike.

There is nothing wrong with pulledPorks suggestion.

 

And you know what? They are still fun to have around because as good as they are at the game, they're particularly nice to basically everyone in game. That's not the issue. The issue is that the game isn't fun to play anymore as a noob. Perhaps it was when you joined, but it's not now, and as the numbers keep dropping, the 'now' is the issue. I like this discussion but lets try and keep on topic.

 

That just sounds to me like trimming off the dead branches to make room for some actual growth to me. Sure it'd suck to see certain people go, but if that's what saves war, then I'm for it.

Mm yes It'd suck so much not to be able to farm kills and actually have a challenge.

I wasn't there, but what makes you think it didn't happen before? Sure, some people stick around, but how many join for just a few games? or a few days? aaand then quit because they don't feel like they have a chance and any glimmer of happiness about what is really a cool minigame just fades away. I don't know dude, odds are not good right now.

 

Hey, new and old players are leaving because the game has become "stale" and 2.0 was supposed to be released like 3 years ago.

Here's the idea, I'll draw it with crayons so you guys can understand it...create and release 2.0 soon not 3 years from now it was supposed to be released in 2013, update the guns & perks that don't work now, change the maps monthly, invest in the game's development and market the game.

Do all those things and more players will come and veterans will stay.

You are misinformed, look people get frustrated and leave because things don't change or evolve fast enough.

Take a moment and read some outro's from the leaderboard guys or mods. Most are very straight forward why they are leaving.

 

You truly are in your own bubble...

Seriously, you think that new players leave cos war 2.0 isnt coming out soon enough?????

And talking about the bubble. There's over 750 000 more players that have played on war than players on the leaderboards. If u just care about a group of around 50 people you arent even in yourself, please noscope your bubble. Please, do it.

 

When was the last time you played?

Interview a sample set of new players who have played and left. See what they say was their reason for leaving. Might be hard to find since they don't typically have forum accounts.

Using experienced players as a data set, because they write an outro, because they have forum accounts etc tells a story. Just read some outros for yourself.

Many people complain about the game not changing and how it has become repetitive.

Furthermore, many people have submitted awesome ideas and few are ever implemented.

The data tells a story. People leave due to the lack of updates and not because everyone is Op and they aren't. The outro's typically say something to the effect that the game has become boring.

I call the first witness @Jaetpack1 . Latest mod to leave the game.
Evil - Why did you leave the server?
Jaetpack1 - (taken from Outro) I have seen myself getting bored of War and some other gamemodes because of the lack of updates. It is sad that the senior game on Brawl and it’s best game has gotten so neglected with the silly ‘#soon’ thing that clearly did not make it anywhere. Years since #soon said War 2.0 was going to be out within the next few months and now it’s three years later? I was so hyped for the new update yet nothing ever came except changing to lobby to fit the holiday. This was a large part of why I am actually making this resignation.

The probability of a server for under 30 players is o% when there are in fact only 4x servers. Your idea will not be implemented unless by some miracle.

The Defense Rests it's Case.

 

About as stupid as thinking a server will be dedicated to under 30 players when there are in fact only 4x servers.

Perhaps back when there were 10 or more but certainly not now when there are so few players and servers.

 

In which way is it stupid

 

You might want to read where The Defense Team rested it's case above.

The real issue is reviving war. I think there are many things to be done to increase the number of players and I don't see this as addressing how to gain more first time players, maintain experienced players or grow the server.

As putty mentioned this doesn't address the core issue.

 

LOL

The problem is that 100+ players have very different opinions compared to newbies. Thats why your data is wrong.

"Because everyone is op and they isnt" - mr_evil.... yeah you stupid man. They are excperirnced players.

We are debating whether thiss should be implemented, not whether it will or not.

Where did putty mention that. Wana read his post.

 

PM me and we can talk off line, I think we are gumming up this thread....and use your spell checker.

 

Omg I like you MR_EVIL_OVERLORD, but it doesn't look like you actually read any of the discussion before jumping into it. Yes, the real issue is trying to revive war and that's what started and has carried this thread. That's what literally everyone here was talking about was trying to revive war. PorkChops30 proposed a viable solution and all you've contributed is notes on why people don't stick around aaafter being active for long enough to get bored of the server. Yes that's an issue as well, but it's a separate issue that perhaps merits it's own separate thread. *finishes ranting*

 

I come online at least 2 times a month randomly and everytime I join, new
players get completely destroyed and that destroys their chance of actually having fun. When I played the game the same thing happened and look how unpopulated the servers are now.

 

@PorkChops30 I asked if anyone had interviewed new players as to what they wanted.
- And I said that it might be hard to get their opinion because many don't have forums accounts.
- Therefore, I said we should ask the people who we know have feedback and that is the seasoned player as well as mods.

If you are going to rage at people who have a different perspective then don't bother posting.
- I've noticed that everyone who disagrees with you receives a post where you tend to rage or perhaps vent.

You are my friend so I'm telling you that while we are still friends we don't have to agree.

The root of the problem you are trying to solve, as I see it is "how do we get more new players to start and stay with War."

My 2 cents: Starting with a specific problem rather than the solution opens up the possibilities. In this case, your opening argument focused on a solution to a problem without real feedback from those effected. No where in your argument did you reference feedback from nubs that you had spoken to. Thus, you have no idea if this is something under 30 players really want. You did mention all your friends, was that like 1 or 2 guys? What did they specifically say as to why they didn't come back?

In a nutshell, I think people aren't looking at the bigger picture. This entire conversation should be about the decline of War rather than 1x smaller idea to the larger problem.

New players don't stay new players for all that long. I could be mis-remembering but I thought that @Mokolee leveled up 1-30 in like 8 hours (could have been someone else).

The real issue is how do we attract more players and how do we keep them.

- Bet you and @PorkChops30 $50 bucks this doesn't get implemented in 30 days.

- If it was a real solution to a problem it would right? I mean it is such an awesome idea how could it not be done right away.

If you guys are so right and I am so wrong then why wouldn't they do this in 30 days to solve all of War's problems. --
- The truth is nothing will happen and I'll be $100 richer. I'd donate the money to the server, you can do whatever you want if you win.

Let me know if you accept this bet.

 

I won't accept the bet but only because I've yet to see brawl actually make a change to improve war since I've joined, regardless of how good or bad an idea is. Also you've yet to present a better solution than 'keep things the same because it used to be so good,' you know, because that's working out sooo well...

 

I've noticed that everyone who disagrees with you receives a post where you tend to rage or perhaps vent. hypocrite much? :x