New Direction For HG

https://www.brawl.com/threads/46368/

 

Blue honey bun, Hg is dead and died off a long time ago.... I dont know why you're still trying to keep it alive. Mattyz awoke me btw

 

Not a HG player by any means, but what about custom biomes or custom maps? They would probably be harder to make, but custom maps are generally more interesting.

 

You wrote "to" two times on the UHC desc.
That's the difference :v

 

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I'll be supportive here and give feedback on the thread.

I like the idea of cutting the border size down because games can run for a very long time right now.

However, I don't like the idea of having people all spawn in different spots. Its unfair if someone magically spawns in a swamp while another gets thrown into a desert. Other than that, I think creating a shortened version of the game could prove helpful to your cause.

 

The media team is currently focusing on reviving the MCPVP channel. If these changes take place, the media team should be putting together a trailer for the new HG

 

Oh my god.
You really are on the way to HG revival.
The only thing I disagree with is the spawn thing.
I love running to the swamp with everyone else, grabbing someone's mushies, and crafting as fast as possible. It really gets me into the mood for a nice HG game.

 

I don't think half the arena, maybe 1/4. Because then it's a 500 x 500 and that's nothing. Maybe 750 x 750. 500 x 500 PLUS the minimizing of the arena after time makes it super small. I like the idea of shrinking the arena though.

I agree with @Uraniumyyy though. This would give players more of an advantage to grab mushies and get ready while others have to run around. I don't see this to be such a big problem, as there is a kit called hermit.

Instead of creative, /spawn?

 

How about both?

 

There's no point in having creative if there's /spawn and no point in /spawn if there's creative

 

No reason to not have both

 

tl;dr below, you lazy pile of HG players

The only direction HG will take from any change that doesn't transform it into another gamemode altogether is downward.

All factors work against it. You have the fact that attention spans are decreasing, so the complex and lengthy HG matches will make players lose interest quickly. You have the fact that SoupPvP now has somewhat of a negative connotation now (Gapp and PotPvP seem to have the spotlight now, ffs) from the "s00p3r 1337 m4dli0n pee vee pee big boiiz". You have the fact that some of the old McPvP players outright hate Brawl and refuse to play it just because Brawl hosts HG.

What else doesn't work in HG's favor?

A lot of people say that the EULA killed HG, and they're right, but what people seem to gloss over a lot of the time is that HG was already on a decline, starting from what I think would be mid 2014. It was still possible to get 120 players per game, yes, but it was happening with less and less frequency. Things were still going strong, yes, but not as strong as HG once was.

Cut to February, 2015. I had trouble finding a game that had more than 50 people on at 3 PM CST on a Saturday.

And finally, it might be worth mentioning that in HG's prime, 2012, 2013, maybe 2011? not sure, PvP wasn't something we were unbelievably familiar with. PvP servers weren't as common.

Well now? HG has a large sea of competitors that overall do a better job at providing the kind of PvP the mainstream Minecraft seems to want.

So..to summarize (tl;dr I mentioned earlier):
- Attention span is decreasing, players want short term gratification and SG+SW+minigame servers are all too happy to deliver, while HG matches just keep dragging on and on
- SoupPvP, one of the key things that makes Hunger Games Hunger Games, generally having a negative or neutral connotation. Certainly not anything good amongst all of the PotPvP fanatics that seem to make up the PvP mainstream.
- Outright contempt for Brawl by some McPvP veterans
- The somewhat suppressed fact that HG was already on a decline, it's just that EULA shoved the stick up the rear end, so to speak
- Competitors have taken over and I see no reason for HG to somehow make a comeback when the playerbase just doesn't want HG PvP anymore

My fingers are sore because this keyboard has some gr8 pressure needed to press a key, but hopefully I've made my point.

I hope this reply is taken into consideration because honestly....this whole "revive HG" thing has gone on far too long.

It's dead.

 

The problem with HG is that it is just punishing for new players. HG seems very interesting on the surface, with its kits, feast, and soup. A new player will probably play a few games just to see what kind of game this is, but after getting slaughtered by pros over and over again, potential players tend to get frustrated and quit before fully learning about the game. HG just needs something to make the game fun for these players while they learn how to soup and such.

 

Can you please stop being so damned negative and actually play the game?
I get 45-60 player games sometimes.
Simple has just as many players. I really don't get your problem. If you don't like current HG on Brawl, get out.

 

So would you like to suggest how to change this? Did you take the time to read through the suggestions, or at least my first reply? I think the "lazy part" applies to you.

 

Lol True true

 

Basically everything that I pointed out aren't things you can change, at least in a reasonable time frame.

How do you change the fact that attention spans are decreasing? I can't suggest a solution for that, nor can I suggest a possible way to make people start liking SoupPvP more. I mean, we already have YouTubers on that job that are advertising new HG reboots/Brawl HG. I can't change that some McPvP old timers just hate Brawl because Brawl.

I can't change that pretty much nothing was done with HG within the year that it was bought, so that the players eventually and slowly dripped away. Because that already happened.

I can't really change that competitors are building up quickly, short of going on there and spamming Brawl's IP, which I'm sure no one would appreciate.

My reply wasn't a suggestion to fix HG. It was to let it go or change it into a new gamemode, a new gamemode the current group of Minecraft players would appreciate.

So I can't really make suggestions on anything, because...well...

POKEMON GO HAS PEOPLE OUTSIDE INSTEAD OF AT THEIR COMPUTERS BRO

No, but in all seriousness, HG is done for the reasons I made in that lengthy reply.

And yes, I read your reply with the suggestion to merge SG and HG. I wonder how many McPvP veterans and SG fanatics you pissed off with that one.

As for playing the game...nothing in my reply says anything that really needs any experience playing the game. I don't make any specific claims pertaining to gameplay like "oh my god, endermage is glitchy", and cite those as the reason HG is currently not doing too well. If I were to make such a scandalous claim, I would back it up so that I wouldn't be immediately hit offline.

"I get 45-60 player games sometimes."

This can be compared to someone saying "I max out at 150 pounds, do you even lift bro?". Okay, you can max out at 150, but for all I know, you've done exactly one rep at 150. And just did it for the bragging rights.

I'm glad to hear that you are fortunate enough to get 45 players in your game, let alone 60, really, I am. But in the games that I've played since 1 year after Brawl bought HG, my max has been 27 or 26 (somewhere in that range) while my average game has 13-17 people in there.
Maximum numbers really don't mean much. The average and maybe the mode is the real deal.

"Simple has just as many players."
I don't give a flying corndog in my rear end how many players Simple has.

And actually, it's worth noting that Brawl had a lot of crucial things that SimpleHG doesn't, like the original Hunger Games domain, the McPvP YouTube channel (fat lot of good this thing did Brawl), and a heck of a lot more time than SimpleHG, yet SimpleHG seems to be equal with Brawl. Without all of that good stuff.

" If you don't like current HG on Brawl, get out."

You and many other players seem to think that just because someone criticizes something, it means that they don't like it.

My parents discipline me when I'm out of line, it doesn't mean they don't love me. Other parents may discipline their child, it might mean they don't love their children. It depends on the case. But you can't say that all people that criticize don't like the game, and that all people that don't criticize like it.

In this case...I love HG. Playing it is such a refresher compared to the other gamemodes that just felt like "open a chest and if you get lucky you'll get a sword you can use to kill people. if not you're screwed". Not saying that HG was really balanced, because it wasn't, but at the very least soup and a sword were guaranteed. Short of an urgal showing up, everyone had the same chances in a fight, and if there wasn't a fair fight, it was because your opponent spent time getting armor, or had a kit that gave them the advantage.

What I was primarily pushing for in my reply was for HG to either be changed to another gamemode or for it to be discontinued. And since we all know the latter is never going to happen, I suppose my suggestion would be for people to stop hoping that it'll return to the mainstream server it once was. It's not going to.

You can say what you will about it. I'd be happy to debate out the points I made in my reply. But telling me not to be negative, then telling me to screw off if I don't like it, well...

I suppose we can argue about that, since I've already listed my arguments about those points you made. But that'd hardly be constructive, and it goes without saying off-topic.

 

You could suggest a way to completely change HG, while still revolving around the idea of SoupPvP