The problem with the new update

Bringing back wg might fix bandits vs sheriffs but not bandits vs bandits. Gun damage remains the same no matter who is using it.
Like I said, Mario took the stupid approach and made sheriff guns do the same amount of damage as illegal guns. This is idiotic, it ruined any chance a new player might have against sheriffs. He should have kept guns the same and buff sheriff armor instead. Add projectile protection to the armor or something.

Sheriff guns do way too much damage for a diamond player to recover quickly. The old style of pvp was take a shot, drink meds, and shoot back. Now it's take a shot, drink meds, and get killed while drinking because you don't have enough hearts to take the next shot.

 

@randomcitizen1 says that enchantment protection fluctuates. It's not (for lack of a better term) solid.

 

Projectile protection definitely reduces damage from snowballs. Either way, adding projectile protection is better than buffing the guns.

Pretty sure that's impossible.

 

Eating steak in CTF is instantaneous.

 

Half the time it takes to drink a pot is not instantaneous. The plugin just listens for a player right clicking steak. This is different.

 

Technically, if you make smart kills, your KOS will end before sheriffs can come back.

 

Why do sheriffs have to take out big teams? There aren't supposed to be able to take out multiple Daimonds by themselves. Everytime I got into a fight with sheriffs they always came unprepared or unplanned. They weren't coordinated or even in sync. They came separate or waited for the others to do damage first.
Sheriffs are becoming a scavenger rank more than a balancer rank. The sheriffs shouldn't be able to take out big team easily! Bandits have the exact same issue, we lose to big teams 100% of the time. Sheriffs were getting frustrated and wanted to quit? What happened to the hardcore sheriffs that could destroy player with careful planning and patience? Those were the deadly sheriffs. Now all they do is charge and die. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat, til the finally get the kill.
I tried suggesting the tracker to only track 500 block radius so they couldn't come back and find us so fast but they complained to much about that and it got changed.

Basically, Sheriffs or Bandits will be over powered based on skill and Numbers. Sheriffs shouldn't be able to take on a team with just one or two of them. Bandits shouldn't just one shot sheriffs. If you can't fix the armor, then program it to where if it hits Iron armor it does a certain amount of damage instead? Many ways to fix things, but arguing like this is starting to annoy me and I'm sure Mario is tired of it too.

If you feel like it is unfair, record it if possible! Show us, don't just tell us! We try our best to make the game fun and as of right now, the sheriffs and bandits are seemingly at a civil war.

 

WG's resistance made fights impossible for both bandit v bandit and sheriff v bandit. Resistance decreases damage taken by 20% per level. Res III = 60% damage reduction. Full D = 80% damage reduction. If I'm doing the math right, I believe that means that full D + res 3 = guns only do 8% of what they should.

The repeater is now balanced against a full D. The other guns weren't really buffed too much when compared to the Mauser and Moddel. See here, it's very important. If you read that closely you will understand that the combat actually is balanced. If you are concerned about losing too much valuable loot, and economy buff would be preferable over a sheriff nerf. Sheriffs bring a lot of fighting to the game, which is where the fun is. A single full D bandit technically has the advantage over a sheriff, but not so much that they are pushovers. It wouldn't be any fun if they were for either sides.

This isn't what people are angry about. New players never have had a chance against sheriffs. This update didn't change anything in this area. If any player that can aim gets their hands on a model, they can kill a sheriff, regardless of armor. Sheriffs can't shoot first. If they play their cards right, the sheriff will be dead before they can do anything.

See here.

Literally the only thing this would do would allow swords to do heavier damage to sheriffs. This wouldn't fix much, as it's not as though anyone swords sheriffs to death anyways.

The same goes for sheriffs, so I don't see what the issue is here. You can still drink meds if you use cover to your advantage. As a sheriff who has always played with how quickly the bandit guns kill you, I know that you can use meds still.

Because big teams don't have any other threat. Sheriffs were originally intended to be the equivalent of three fully decked out bandits (which they never were), so they are supposed to be able to take out multiple Ds by themselves.

Sheriffs are what provide the threat to big teams. That is their balance currently.

That was how sheriffs were before the update. Their only good weapon were handcuffs, so of course they charged and died. Now, they can keep their distance and actually pick players off with patience and strategy.

With the 500 block radius, it was completely destroyed the rogue system. The balance of risk v reward was shifted far too much in favor of the bandits who could kill at will.

Giving sheriffs better armor isn't the way to go. See here.

After reading all this, the only legitimate concerns that have been voiced is how much bandits have at stake and the rogue system. Slightly less rogue time could be implemented as well as rogue trackers not functioning in towns in order to help bandits escape sheriffs. The economy could also be reverted to what it was originally so nobody had to worry too much about losing their gear. Players would fight more and complain less if this was the case.

 

Rekted mafia! Get Rekted!! Yea, I suggested going back to its original first release economy. Getting 50k per poppy and like 75k per WG. Making armor cheaper and maybe have a more team friendly plugin that encourages new players to join teams.

 

Yes please. The only way I see this being resolved in a way that would satisfy both sides is an economy buff.

 

@18kss says that the repeater's power will be reduced. It won't be drastic.

 

You didnt do the math right. I mean resistance 5 does not give 100% damage reduction. 0.8^resistance_level would make more sence.

But it would just make a difference of 2 percentage points, or as i would prefer to say, 25%

 

I'm pretty sure I did do the math right as resistance five does give 100% damage reduction.

Say something does 100 damage (nothing does currently).

For D:
full D = 80% (.80) damage reduction
damage x percent reduced = damage reduced
100 x .80 = 80
damage - damage reduced = final damage dealt
100 - 80 = 20

For res III:
res III = 60% (.60) damage reduction
damage x percent reduced = damage reduced
20 x .60 = 12
damage - damage reduced = final damage dealt
20 - 12 = 8

8/100 = .08
.08 = 8%

 

You made the math right then...... its kinda wierd it works like that though.

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Status_effect#Resistance

The amount of research you do is truly impressive...