Wildwest improvement ideas

1. Cuffs should be reworked, but forcing us to hold rightclick for three seconds is a bit extreme. The bandit can easily run from the sheriff and juke in different directions, and it would be impossible to keep the crosshair focused on the target for three seconds.
2. Definite +1.
3. I agree, fights these days depend mainly on stealth. Drawn-out sieges definitely seems more appealing than the two second fights we normally see. No to the sheriff tracker :v

 

1. What do you expect us to do? Stand there until you shoot at us? We can't shoot first. Handcuffing is our #1 priority. How would the 3 second thing work? Would it stop the arrestee or will they continue to move?

2. OK, but you cannot have our ammo. Go buy your own. Our ammo is abundant.

3. The best bandit gun is the Model. It shoots almost twice as fast as the Repeater and the Coach Gun. So, you're pretty much wrong on that.
@randomcitizen1 has already said that the protection enchantment is not solid. It's rather random. Protection III iron armor (this is what Kevlar is right now) blocks I think 60-something to 80-something percent of damage.
Protection IV iron armor blocks 70-something to 90-something percent of damage.
So, therefore, with a higher protection enchantment, we would range from tough to nearly unkillable.
Oh, btw, Diamond armor blocks 80 percent of damage.

 

1. No, too controversial of a topic
2. Depends
3. Yes

 

1. Cuffs were sufficiently balanced by the last nerf. It now requires sneaking up on a bandit or evading bullets until point blank. Your statement about skill is an opinion and has no relevance to the discussion really. A three second cuff timer combined with the current protocol ensuring that sheriffs cannot shoot first in addition to no cuffing while combat tagged would further imbalance the sheriff v. bandit game as well as make cuffing somewhat useless. How could a sheriff cuff someone if they are noticed? If the bandits don't attack, this forces the sheriff to resort to cuffing. The sheriff then tries to cuff, but is promptly killed by the bandit's teammates one the sheriff is in close range. Additionally, cuffing a moving target would be nearly impossible. There are far too many things wrong with this idea to be practical. -1

2. Having sheriffs drop legal loot makes things far too easy for bandit teams. There needs to be some sort of consequence for bandits who have been killed and their loot taken by a sheriff. Using your same logic, having sheriffs drop legal loot when they die essentially means that bandits have no risk of losing gear when they fight sheriffs in a gun fight given the current imbalance between bandits and sheriffs. Bandits have an immense advantage, and sheriffs rarely get to loot bandit bodies given this present imbalance. If you would like a better reward for killing sheriffs, ideally the entire economy should be revamped with the sheriffs still dropping the same money that they do now. The economy needs to change anyways. Lower prices + same drops = better reward. -1 for this idea though.

3. Absolutely not. Bandits have a huge advantage over sheriffs in gear. Your assertion that the repeater does twice the ammount of damage than the T-G is incorrect when taking into consideration the difference in armor protection that bandits have as opposed to what sheriffs have. The T-G actually does more damage to sheriffs than the repeater does to bandits. As for balance to noobs, I recognize that this is an issue. However, recognize that a damage reduction of sheriff guns would require an armor reduction for the higher tier armor. Also recognize that the T-G can technically OSK even full Indian with one well-placed headshot. Both guns two-shot body shot full indian, therefore the repeater's faster firerate is the only difference in balance in this situation. The damage done matters less if they both two shot. I think that it's fair to say that balancing for the sake of noobs not only needs to be done for sheriff guns, but also for bandit guns. As for saying that noobs don't stand a chance against sheriffs, are they supposed to? If you are in default gear, do you honestly expect to be able to stand a chance against a sheriff? Also, think of it this way. Noobs stand even less of a chance to bandits seeing as they usually travel in groups of two or more. Is it sheriffs that are the only problem? I think not. The repeater buff was needed as it used to take 5 body shots or three headshots to kill a full D. This was nearly impossible due to the fact that bandits most often have more cover, and therefore can easily use meds to survive. Additionally, bandit teammates could easily damage sponge for their comrades to make killing them impossible. Removing the buff will only serve the interests of bandits at the expense of sheriffs over whom they already have an enormous edge in combat. As for a sheriff tracker, this would essentially make the job of a sheriff impossible because players could easily log when a sheriff came too close.
-1

 

Considering only sheriffs have responded to your thread so far, this doesn't make much sense. :V Also, by your same logic, should a non-sheriff respond in favor to this thread, anyone can randomly imply that just because they aren't a sheriff, they are biased against sheriffs.

Sheriffs standing still is actually worse than cuffs taking a few seconds to work. It makes cuffing a running player impossible. You yourself admit that good for the semi-afk processor. I'd take it farther and say that it's only good for that situation. If you are semi-afk, you don't even deserve a chance to fight back imo. :v And what would this mean for all the non-afk processors? Handcuffing is hard enough as it is. Regardless of whether you want to admit it or not, it takes skill and strategy. Sheriffs have to go completely unnoticed in order to cuff. And if they are noticed, they have to dodge bullets to cuff, in which case they would most likely result to shooting anyways. Not the best arguement for a cuff nerf. Still -1

The fact that you reference how difficult it is for bandits to get gear implies that this could be rectified by means other than sheriffs dropping illegals. The obvious way is to get a better economy.

Again, a better economy would fix this.

This has no relevance to the issue at hand really. It's not a logical arguement for a nerf.

It's not pointless. You get money and prevent yourself from losing more gear. There's nothing pointless about that. :v

*Sheriffs use their free, albeit, underpowered gear to balance wildwest and provide a challenge to bandits who seek to make money quickly via processing drugs. If a sheriff gets a kill and dies, nothing comes of it because the bandit's teamates get their friends loot, immediately bails him, and allows him to come back with little consequences. If the sheriff gets a kill, manages the near impossible and loots the body while being shot at long enough to survive (happens rarely), then the bandits suffer the consequences of being unable to kill the sheriff quickly enough.

Because a one heart difference is such a huge difference. :v
Repeater: Headshot to full D - 5.8 hearts
T-G Headshot to Kevlar: 4.864 hearts on average
(Ranges from 3.95200 - 5.77600 hearts)

3.95200 - 5.77600 hearts

Since when does the bandit use the T-G instead of the model?

In this nearly purely hypothetical situation, then yes.

The T-G is the anti tank rifle, not the Repeater. :V And since when do civilians have access to anti tank rifles, shotguns that shoot at 100 RPM, and a pistol that belonged to a German officer? xD

This is actually an interesting idea. It would need some further thinking through, but it's plausible. Oh, and thee only way this should be considered is if the combat system is changed... to buff sheriffs to match bandits. :V

Again, interesting idea. I don't think it's necessary, but it sounds somewhat plausible.